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Kendo UI is out of beta
- mapleoin 15y agoDoes anyone have experience with both Google ChartTools and KendoUI's DataViz? I'm really curious to know how they compare.
- VonLipwig 15y agoJust wondering why you would pick this over say jquery-ui or a combination of free and open source solutions?
- deerparkwater 15y agoTrust in Telerik's coding
- jinushaun 15y agoIt's made by Telerik, maker of .NET libraries and tools, and some companies go "all in" on their stuff.
- vijayr 15y agoI use highcharts at work, and quite happy with it. This seems to have much less options than highcharts. Is there any place where we can compare the various charting libraries?
- ErrantX 15y agoHaving played with it; and after recently building an app using "jquery-ui or a combination of free and open source solutions" I'd say... because it's actually very good by comparison :) For an ISV, $399 is next to nothing.
- froggy 15y agoThis is way slicker than what you could build using jquery-ui and available plugins unless you are rockstar with the js and have an excellent design person. For instance, the best time-picker plugin I've been able to find for jquery-ui is nice but isn't perfectly cross-browser and not as pretty: http://labs.perifer.se/timedatepicker/ http://labs.perifer.se/timedatepicker/ Now look at the Kendo time picker. Design and usability are crucial to a successful product, so I'd say this looks like a smart investment, although I'd have to tinker with it more before buying.
- ktsmith 15y agoTheir time picker is fine as it's little more than a combo box for the end user. Their date picker however isn't any better than any other I've seen and almost all of them have usability or discoverability problems. In this case entering dates in the far past or future requires a lot of clicks, and for me significantly more effort than typing the date. It's also not terribly discoverable as there's not a visual indication that I could see indicating the year portion of the widget was clickable and could be used to drill down into selecting other years, decades, etc.
- arethuza 15y agoWhat about this one? http://trentrichardson.com/examples/timepicker/ http://trentrichardson.com/examples/timepicker/ It extends the standard jQuery UI datepicker but you can turn off the date picker part leaving the time picker.
- latchkey 15y agoI've recently explored a lot of these different time widgets. I didn't like that one because dragging a slider for the time seemed like a lot of work. I'd rather click, so I ended up with this one that is based on jquery ui as well: http://fgelinas.com/code/timepicker/ http://fgelinas.com/code/timepicker/
- marquis 15y agoMichael Vanderheeren's Absolution UI is pretty gorgeous. http://www.michaelvanderheeren.be/archives/382 http://www.michaelvanderheeren.be/archives/382
- nixarn 15y agoLooks cool, some of the components did look a lot nicer than jQuery UI's.
- Supermighty 15y agoI've never heard of your product before and your homepage tells me nothing about what exactly it is. My best guess is that it's some sort of web development tool that I can pay to get support for.
- mapleoin 15y agoI found this to be quite helpful: Kendo UI Web is a framework for modern HTML UI. Engineered with the latest HTML5, CSS3, and JavaScript standards, it delivers everything needed for client-side, jQuery-powered development in one integrated, compact package.
- jonpaul 15y agoI believe that the parent is referring to the link that the OP submitted. If so, the parent is correct. The link submitted doesn't state much at all, other than purchasing options. The OP should have submitted the actual homepage, the page that contains the information that you provided.
- nazar 15y agoAs a rule of thumb I search for "About" link on any website if I don't get the whole thing. Isn't it quite straightforward?
- euroclydon 15y agoAs someone who does JavaScript and HTML5 UIs for a living, I'm interested to understand more about the market of customers who pay for UI components or libraries. Can anyone comment point me to an successful MVP in this area or tell me about customers who buy this stuff?
- wavephorm 15y agoMy untested opinion is quality JavaScript libraries are something everyone needs, but few are willing to pay for because Open Source has taught the majority of web developers to demand everything be free all the time, and include free support, otherwise they won't touch it.
- allenp 15y agoThe place I've seen these libraries heavily used is for internal business web apps. Think in terms of replacing MS Access within an organization with web apps. Developers want a consistent platform to use and management wants to be able to guarantee support by throwing money at some business to keep the lights on for many years. Using a paid product is less risky for these groups. Sorry I don't have an MVP to point to.
- bigohms 15y agoSeveral of our clients, big consulting firms for the gov heavily use these and have no qualms about picking them up.
- jonknee 15y agoGenerally the same people who buy Windows Server, businesses and governments. ExtJS is reasonably popular, probably the best example I can think of here (but I'm not in the market). http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/ http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/ Having quality support available is probably alone worth several times the price.
- jonknee 15y agoGenerally the same people who buy Windows Server, businesses and governments. ExtJS is reasonably popular, probably the best example I can think of here (but I'm not in the market). http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/ http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/
- bobds 15y agoHow does the dual licensing work exactly? Can't we just use the GPLv3 version on any commercial (or personal) website? As long as I'm not redistributing commercial software with Kendo included, I am within the rights GPL grants me, right?
- sunchild 15y agoUnder GPL3, if you make KendoUI components available via hosted solution, I think you'd have to release your app's entire source. I think GPL3/commercial dual licensing is a very unattractive licensing approach, but that's just my view. CORRECTION: My comment is only true under the Affero GPL.
- thezoid 15y agoI think that since the only code that is directly linking to the library is your JS, that needs to be released according to the GPL. So if you don't minify everything, you are probably complying already. Otherwise you'd have to provide access to your unminified JS source.
- sirclueless 15y agoProviding access to your unminified JS is not the same as releasing your JS under the GPL. The GPL explicitly allows anyone to modify and redistribute the software, which is not necessarily a privilege you would otherwise grant when you give someone JS to execute. I'm not certain whether including a GPL library with your JS code requires you to license your JS as well under the GPL, but if it does then simply choosing not to minify won't be enough protection.
- bjelkeman-again 15y agoIf you use GPL3 licensed software in the backend, you wouldn't have to release the entire source, as long as you don't distribute the software. Which is why AGPL was created. But something like HTML UI components can't really be used without being used over the network, so not sure if it makes any difference here. Anybody know better? Edit: I see that DanielRibeiro has an answer about mobile apps. "The GNU Affero General Public License The GNU Affero General Public License is based on the GNU GPL, but has an additional term to allow users who interact with the licensed software over a network to receive the source for that program. We recommend that people consider using the GNU AGPL for any software which will commonly be run over a network. The latest version is version 3." http://www.gnu.org/licenses/index_html http://www.gnu.org/licenses/index_html
- sunchild 15y agoLast time this was posted, I griped that it still failed to fill gaps that jQueryUI and other kits also lack. It's looking vastly improved since then, and looks like something people might want to pay for. Nice work!
- forgotusername 15y agoPlease don't consider using this at least until they make their own demo accessible to non mouse users (I raised the same complaint the last time this was posted, no change).
- endersshadow 15y agoHonestly, I wouldn't hold your breath. You're probably so far on the fringe that it's not worth their time to fix it for you. They're demo works fine on my phone (Opera Mobile browser), the only mouseless interface I use. I'm all for keyboard navigation, but I'm not at the point of boycotting if somebody doesn't support keyboard-only interaction.
- forgotusername 15y agoWhile it is only a minor annoyance for me, there are plenty more mentally and physically disabled people for which it is a major one.
- robododo 15y agoIf you have to work with the US government, it's actually an issue: http://www.section508.gov/ http://www.section508.gov/ From what I'm told by the "business guys", making your stuff accessiblt to the handicapped is a realy leg-up on some juicy contracts.
- gcb 15y agoThe only one i tested, combo box, failed on Android. When you click the arrow, keyboard goes up and hide the options. If you scroll or press back to move keyboard, options are gone
- phzbOx 15y agoWell, the goal of using an already-made UI library is to not have to think about these issues. I.e. if you're paying a couple hundred dollars for a library, you assume it has been well tested. (And, if keyboard shortcuts don't work, it's obvious that it wasn't tested enough.)
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- nazar 15y agoAnyone has idea what this line might mean: "Your Trial Support Package is active for 60 days after download."
- vyrotek 15y agoI checked this out when researching a few frameworks for a new application. Even though it was an ASP.Net project we decided to go with Dojo http://dojotoolkit.org http://dojotoolkit.org which I feel has a better product and model. It's free but if you need professional support you can get it through Sitepen.com. I've been impressed with it so far.
- thedjpetersen 15y agoI could see this becoming a popular enterprise piece of software, but most of the functionality can be glued together with jQuerys UI library or the Google Closure Widgets.
- megaman821 15y agoThis is a nice UI kit but it seems to any multiple select widgets like http://harvesthq.github.com/chosen/ http://harvesthq.github.com/chosen/.
- davorb 15y agoWhat you did wrong with this site is that you need to CLEARLY describe on the first page what your product does. http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ is a good example of how to do this right
- bundyo 15y agoWell, we have all that on http://www.kendoui.com/ http://www.kendoui.com/, but unfortunately we didn't post this news piece.
- phzbOx 15y agoCan someone explain me what is considered 'open-source' in a web application? For instance, say I have a sushi website where people can order. The web site (html+css+javascript) is obviously public but the backend is private. (Database containing credit card + django code for instance). If I use this library on my website (I.e. including the javascript on the client side), should I have to pay 400$?