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You are rather misinformed on specifics and nuances, thus building your arguments on quite a lot of false assumptions, but at this point I'm kinda lazy to addre
by foverzar 4y ago
You are rather misinformed on specifics and nuances, thus building your arguments on quite a lot of false assumptions, but at this point I'm kinda lazy to address multiple points at the same time.
Consider that quite a lot of what you hear is a wartime propaganda and everyone is lying. But, one could treat this as kind of a poker game and infer quite a lot from it: e.g. in his last speech Zelensky accused Russia of attacking infrastructure. But why would he do that if that was supposedly true from day 1? Why the sudden change of rhetoric on what is supposed to be non-news and yet-another-day-of-the-same-thing? Maybe cuz this time Russians had actually started doing this on purpose, rather than as random collateral?
Same for all the "evil Russians rape and torture" - Zelensky ended up firing the official who was pushing this narrative. Why? Maybe cuz their latest ramblings became so incoherent, it might have caused suspicion and could have hurt the public image?
> Id still say it’s pretty comparable given it’s distance.
Distance to what?
IMO, the most comparable thing to Iraq would be Russian campaign in Syria.
- _kbh_ 4y ago> Same for all the "evil Russians rape and torture" - Zelensky ended up firing the official who was pushing this narrative. Why? Maybe cuz their latest ramblings became so incoherent, it might have caused suspicion and could have hurt the public image? Perfect timing, you can now read the independent UN report that says Russian troops raped and tortured children in Ukraine. https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/09/update-chair-independent-international-commission-inquiry-ukraine-51st-session https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2022/09/update-chair-ind... ill quote it for you. "The Commission has documented cases in which children have been raped, tortured, and unlawfully confined. Children have also been killed and injured in indiscriminate attacks with explosive weapons. The exposure to repeated explosions, crimes, forced displacement and separation from family members deeply affected their well-being and mental health.". > Distance to what? IMO, the most comparable thing to Iraq would be Russian campaign in Syria. Its distance from the countries fighting the actual war, in Iraq countries where fighting a war thousands of kilometres way from them, in Ukraine Russia is fighting on its doorstep and still failing.
- foverzar 4y agoThanks, I'll definitely thoroughly. I can already see that it doesn't actually say "Russian troops raped and tortured children in Ukraine". May I ask why did you decide to lie and misrepresent the report? Would be curious to compare it with Ukraine's normal numbers. > Its distance from the countries fighting the actual war, in Iraq countries where fighting a war thousands of kilometres way from them, in Ukraine Russia is fighting on its doorstep and still failing. Ok, clearly, you haven't read all the parts where I describes the difference of "hit and run" and fighting near the border. The US can't even secure it's border against civilians and had to build a wall. Even it's border patrol is a branch of customs, rather than a branch of military. I feel like you ignore the difference between simple "hit and run" and complex territorial defense on purpose.