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> get vaccinated and you won't get it, no[r] spread it When and where was this the message? I'm not doubting you, I just got most of my covid info from going t

by strken 4y ago

> get vaccinated and you won't get it, no[r] spread it When and where was this the message? I'm not doubting you, I just got most of my covid info from going to blogs then reading the abstracts of papers they linked to, and I remember the efficacy being in the 80% to 90% range for the initial strain. Even smallpox vaccines only had around 95% efficacy. There's no good reason for a journalist to report that any vaccine is 100% effective.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/22/joe-biden/biden-says-vaccinated-people-cant-spread-covid-19-/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/22/joe-biden/... > "This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Biden said in the full interview. "The unvaccinated. Not the vaccinated, the unvaccinated. That’s the problem. Everybody talks about freedom and not to have a shot or have a test. Well guess what? How about patriotism? How about making sure that you’re vaccinated, *so you do not spread the disease to anyone else."* (*emphasis mine*) https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/media-resources/science-in-5/episode-49-can-i-get-infected-after-vaccination https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... > The vaccines that we have against COVID are incredibly effective vaccines. And people have seen the results from the clinical trials of, you know, anywhere in the 80 percent range, 90 percent range of efficacy. But that doesn't mean that 100 percent of people, 100 percent of the time are going to be protected against disease. There is no vaccine that provides that level of protection for any disease. So we do expect in any vaccine program that there will be rare, but there will be cases of disease among people who were fully vaccinated and certainly among some people who were partially vaccinated. This doesn't mean that the vaccines aren't working. It doesn't mean that there's something wrong with the vaccines. What it does mean is that not everybody who receives vaccines has 100 percent protection To me, that means that chances of not getting covid are 80-90%, so out of 100 vaccinated people, only 10-20 will get covid... which was a "good enough" risk reduction for me. also https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-3-29-21-n1262442 https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-s... (interview with CDC Director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky ) > And we have -- we can kind of almost see the end. We`re vaccinating so very fast, our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don`t get sick, and that it`s not just in the clinical trials but it`s also in real world data.

by strken 4y ago

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/22/joe-biden/biden-says-vaccinated-people-cant-spread-covid-19-/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/dec/22/joe-biden/... > "This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated," Biden said in the full interview. "The unvaccinated. Not the vaccinated, the unvaccinated. That’s the problem. Everybody talks about freedom and not to have a shot or have a test. Well guess what? How about patriotism? How about making sure that you’re vaccinated, *so you do not spread the disease to anyone else."* (*emphasis mine*) https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/media-resources/science-in-5/episode-49-can-i-get-infected-after-vaccination https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2... > The vaccines that we have against COVID are incredibly effective vaccines. And people have seen the results from the clinical trials of, you know, anywhere in the 80 percent range, 90 percent range of efficacy. But that doesn't mean that 100 percent of people, 100 percent of the time are going to be protected against disease. There is no vaccine that provides that level of protection for any disease. So we do expect in any vaccine program that there will be rare, but there will be cases of disease among people who were fully vaccinated and certainly among some people who were partially vaccinated. This doesn't mean that the vaccines aren't working. It doesn't mean that there's something wrong with the vaccines. What it does mean is that not everybody who receives vaccines has 100 percent protection To me, that means that chances of not getting covid are 80-90%, so out of 100 vaccinated people, only 10-20 will get covid... which was a "good enough" risk reduction for me. also https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-show-3-29-21-n1262442 https://www.msnbc.com/transcripts/transcript-rachel-maddow-s... (interview with CDC Director, Dr. Rochelle Walensky ) > And we have -- we can kind of almost see the end. We`re vaccinating so very fast, our data from the CDC today suggests, you know, that vaccinated people do not carry the virus, don`t get sick, and that it`s not just in the clinical trials but it`s also in real world data.