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For any downvoters, please review the following https://t.e2ma.net/click/sv236h/8z0tiag/wa9559 https://t.e2ma.net/click/sv236h/8z0tiag/wa9559 It does not ban n

For any downvoters, please review the following https://t.e2ma.net/click/sv236h/8z0tiag/wa9559 https://t.e2ma.net/click/sv236h/8z0tiag/wa9559 It does not ban nor prevent the use of the word "gay."

jimmygrapes 4y ago
wolfgang42 4y ago
More official link: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/PDF https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/... > 3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur [for many students] So I guess technically you can say the word, as long as you don’t explain what it means?
- munk-a 4y ago
  I guess it's more accurate to say it's the "only say gay in the context of being happy" bill? You can say the word - but it can't be about sexual orientation.
  - bavell 4y ago
    It says "classroom instruction", so wouldn't it also be okay if it was just the teacher and student in a one-on-one discussion? Since that wouldn't be instructing a class.
    - DangitBobby 4y ago
      I'm gonna guess that wouldn't go you the teacher's way if someone wanted to call them on it.
    - tsimionescu 4y ago
      I'm sure that would easily be categorized as grooming.
- 0xFEEDC0DE 4y ago
  Why are you omitting the entire sentence? "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in."
  - wolfgang42 4y ago
    I cut the second half for brevity: it seems that the bill does in fact prevent the use of the word under at least some circumstances, so I condensed the exceptions since they’re not relevant to addressing the claim that it doesn’t do so at all.
    - cronix 4y ago
      It prevents talking about sexuality with children (up to 3rd grade), whether it's gay, straight, trans, furries, whatever. To say it's about one specific thing when it's about the entire subject is misrepresenting the bill.
      - tsimionescu 4y ago
        Why should it be more acceptable, exactly? This is not even about sexual education, it is literally illegal to explain to those kids that sometimes a man and a woman love each other, and sometimes two men or two women do the same. Of course, the first part will never be enforced, but the second and third clearly will. There is no age at which it is inappropriate to listen about these extremely basic facts of the world.
        gnaritas99 4y ago
        Consultant32452 4y ago
        When I was in kindergarten I didn't even know my teachers had first names, much less spouses. A kindergartener is not your friend to share your life with. People have terrible boundaries. This is why public schooling must be destroyed.

For any downvoters, please review the following https://t.e2ma.net/click/sv236h/8z0tiag/wa9559 https://t.e2ma.net/click/sv236h/8z0tiag/wa9559 It does not ban nor prevent the use of the word "gay."

jimmygrapes 4y ago

wolfgang42 4y ago

More official link: https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/PDF https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/er/... > 3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur [for many students] So I guess technically you can say the word, as long as you don’t explain what it means?

munk-a 4y ago
I guess it's more accurate to say it's the "only say gay in the context of being happy" bill? You can say the word - but it can't be about sexual orientation.
- bavell 4y ago
  It says "classroom instruction", so wouldn't it also be okay if it was just the teacher and student in a one-on-one discussion? Since that wouldn't be instructing a class.
  - DangitBobby 4y ago
    I'm gonna guess that wouldn't go you the teacher's way if someone wanted to call them on it.
  - tsimionescu 4y ago
    I'm sure that would easily be categorized as grooming.
0xFEEDC0DE 4y ago
Why are you omitting the entire sentence? "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in."
- wolfgang42 4y ago
  I cut the second half for brevity: it seems that the bill does in fact prevent the use of the word under at least some circumstances, so I condensed the exceptions since they’re not relevant to addressing the claim that it doesn’t do so at all.
  - cronix 4y ago
    It prevents talking about sexuality with children (up to 3rd grade), whether it's gay, straight, trans, furries, whatever. To say it's about one specific thing when it's about the entire subject is misrepresenting the bill.
    - tsimionescu 4y ago
      Why should it be more acceptable, exactly? This is not even about sexual education, it is literally illegal to explain to those kids that sometimes a man and a woman love each other, and sometimes two men or two women do the same. Of course, the first part will never be enforced, but the second and third clearly will. There is no age at which it is inappropriate to listen about these extremely basic facts of the world.
      - gnaritas99 4y ago
      - Consultant32452 4y ago
        When I was in kindergarten I didn't even know my teachers had first names, much less spouses. A kindergartener is not your friend to share your life with. People have terrible boundaries. This is why public schooling must be destroyed.