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There is absolutely nothing stopping conservatives from establishing their own social media platform. Conservatives love “the free market” as long as it is wor

There is absolutely nothing stopping conservatives from establishing their own social media platform. Conservatives love “the free market” as long as it is working for them. Whose fault is it that Truth Social is an abysmal failure?

b800h 4y ago
I think there's a potential argument against this. 1. Network effects mean that there's only space for one platform in a particular niche. 2. There are reports (are they reliable?) that people who are more left wing are more habitually online and post much more. If the above two are true, then left-wing social networks will naturally dominate.
- scarface74 4y ago
  There is only space for one platform, yet there are plenty of platforms for discourse. Are you really arguing that for instance Trump or Foxnews don’t have the following to start an alternate social media? As far as #2, why should tgat be an argument for the government to be involved?
  - b800h 4y ago
    Well I'm hedging my bets. If it really is true that the market in a particular area (microblogging for instance) can only be dominated by a single company, and also that left-wing users are more active, then absolutely, I'm arguing that Fox would be unable to maintain a successful rival to Twitter. As far as #2 is concerned, well I don't know if it is an argument for the government to become involved, but if something is driving huge divisions in society which are arguably destabilising the country (again, this is arguably wrong) then should the government not intervene? I'm European by the way, so my philosophical priors might be different to those of an American. It's not as though government doesn't regulated other human behaviours which cause damage if left unregulated. Drink driving, for example.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      I actually have my own “micro blog” at wait for it “micro.blog” (https://digitalnomadder.micro.blog/about/ https://digitalnomadder.micro.blog/about/) It’s more of a journaling thing. But I’m sure if I had the reach of many of the conservatives I could make a healthy living by monetizing it (not interested) or at least getting my own views out there. I’ve made the offer plenty of times, I would gladly overcharge any conservative to lead the creation of a social media site that could stand up to the likely traffic. It would be like the atheist who got rich selling a mobile Bible app. If I couldn’t lead the charge, I need to give up my $DayJob.
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- 1270018080 4y ago
  I can't think of any left wing social networks. Have any ever existed?
_-david-_ 4y ago
You mean like Parler? Oh wait, some of the biggest tech companies, for all intents and purposes, killed it. You can have a free market with monopolies/duopolies.
- scarface74 4y ago
  There is a monopoly/duopoly on collocation centers? According to the former CEO of AWS, only 5% of all IT spend is on any cloud provider. The other 95% self host. It amazes me that people on HN of all places is saying that they can’t create anything without a dependency on cloud providers.
  - _-david-_ 4y ago
    >There is a monopoly/duopoly on collocation centers? I was talking about Apple and Google removing the app from their app stores. I think they are back now, but it looks like it killed much of its steam. >According to the former CEO of AWS, only 5% of all IT spend is on any cloud provider. The other 95% self host This number sounds a bit weird. I assume you are saying cloud costs are only 5% of IT spending which means it includes salaries. If that is the case you can't assume any level of self hosting. Can you provide the source on this or clarify what you are saying?
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Andy Jassy is my skip*10 manager the last time I checked. But there are always re-orgs. https://accelerationeconomy.com/cloud/amazon-shocker-ceo-jassy-says-cloud-less-than-5-of-all-it-spending/ https://accelerationeconomy.com/cloud/amazon-shocker-ceo-jas... > With a $51B revenue run rate that’s growing 28% YoY (these were the Q4 2020 numbers we last publicly shared), it’s easy to forget that AWS is still in the very early stages of what’s possible. Less than 5% of the global IT spend is in the cloud at this point Why does Parlor need to be an app at all? They can just be a website.
      - _-david-_ 4y ago
edgyquant 4y ago
I’m a liberal but we’re reaching a point where this argument isn’t exactly truthful
- scarface74 4y ago
  You being a liberal actual trust the government with more power?
int_19h 4y ago
I don't care if conservatives are hypocrites on this. What really matters is that if they can get steamrolled by private actors operating as a censorship cartel, then so can everyone else.

b800h 4y ago

I think there's a potential argument against this. 1. Network effects mean that there's only space for one platform in a particular niche. 2. There are reports (are they reliable?) that people who are more left wing are more habitually online and post much more. If the above two are true, then left-wing social networks will naturally dominate.

scarface74 4y ago
There is only space for one platform, yet there are plenty of platforms for discourse. Are you really arguing that for instance Trump or Foxnews don’t have the following to start an alternate social media? As far as #2, why should tgat be an argument for the government to be involved?
- b800h 4y ago
  Well I'm hedging my bets. If it really is true that the market in a particular area (microblogging for instance) can only be dominated by a single company, and also that left-wing users are more active, then absolutely, I'm arguing that Fox would be unable to maintain a successful rival to Twitter. As far as #2 is concerned, well I don't know if it is an argument for the government to become involved, but if something is driving huge divisions in society which are arguably destabilising the country (again, this is arguably wrong) then should the government not intervene? I'm European by the way, so my philosophical priors might be different to those of an American. It's not as though government doesn't regulated other human behaviours which cause damage if left unregulated. Drink driving, for example.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    I actually have my own “micro blog” at wait for it “micro.blog” (https://digitalnomadder.micro.blog/about/ https://digitalnomadder.micro.blog/about/) It’s more of a journaling thing. But I’m sure if I had the reach of many of the conservatives I could make a healthy living by monetizing it (not interested) or at least getting my own views out there. I’ve made the offer plenty of times, I would gladly overcharge any conservative to lead the creation of a social media site that could stand up to the likely traffic. It would be like the atheist who got rich selling a mobile Bible app. If I couldn’t lead the charge, I need to give up my $DayJob.
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1270018080 4y ago
I can't think of any left wing social networks. Have any ever existed?

_-david-_ 4y ago

You mean like Parler? Oh wait, some of the biggest tech companies, for all intents and purposes, killed it. You can have a free market with monopolies/duopolies.

scarface74 4y ago
There is a monopoly/duopoly on collocation centers? According to the former CEO of AWS, only 5% of all IT spend is on any cloud provider. The other 95% self host. It amazes me that people on HN of all places is saying that they can’t create anything without a dependency on cloud providers.
- _-david-_ 4y ago
  >There is a monopoly/duopoly on collocation centers? I was talking about Apple and Google removing the app from their app stores. I think they are back now, but it looks like it killed much of its steam. >According to the former CEO of AWS, only 5% of all IT spend is on any cloud provider. The other 95% self host This number sounds a bit weird. I assume you are saying cloud costs are only 5% of IT spending which means it includes salaries. If that is the case you can't assume any level of self hosting. Can you provide the source on this or clarify what you are saying?
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Andy Jassy is my skip*10 manager the last time I checked. But there are always re-orgs. https://accelerationeconomy.com/cloud/amazon-shocker-ceo-jassy-says-cloud-less-than-5-of-all-it-spending/ https://accelerationeconomy.com/cloud/amazon-shocker-ceo-jas... > With a $51B revenue run rate that’s growing 28% YoY (these were the Q4 2020 numbers we last publicly shared), it’s easy to forget that AWS is still in the very early stages of what’s possible. Less than 5% of the global IT spend is in the cloud at this point Why does Parlor need to be an app at all? They can just be a website.
    - _-david-_ 4y ago

edgyquant 4y ago

I’m a liberal but we’re reaching a point where this argument isn’t exactly truthful

scarface74 4y ago
You being a liberal actual trust the government with more power?

int_19h 4y ago

I don't care if conservatives are hypocrites on this. What really matters is that if they can get steamrolled by private actors operating as a censorship cartel, then so can everyone else.