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Welcome to the natural consequence of social networks becoming important to just do daily business. The phone companies, and other utilities, operate under str

Welcome to the natural consequence of social networks becoming important to just do daily business. The phone companies, and other utilities, operate under strict rules. I do wonder how many and type of companies will become internet utilities?

NovemberWhiskey 4y ago
99.5% of Americans could never log into Facebook, Twitter or anything ever again with no substantial impact on their daily lives. The remaining 0.5% have careers centered around social media and should probably find a real job. Honest to goodness, the hyperventilation about how "important" social media is just amazes me.
- smaryjerry 4y ago
  And 100% of people could live without phone companies with no impact to their daily lives, we’ve got internet right? Of course I would be the one defining impact here. You may consider impact to daily lives not substantial, but others see the substantial impact of not being able to reach their family, friends, and customers and the disadvantage that comes with others having that access but you not. It’s not like Facebook actually is making the “social media” you see in your feed, it is 100% carrying social media from users, the same way a phone company aren’t the one making calls.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Are you really comparing the level of effort of setting a phone company to creating a social media platform or a website to get your ideas out there?
    - smaryjerry 4y ago
      Exactly. There is much lower hanging fruit but if you ask someone what is more valuable to their business, phone service or social media, many would choose social media.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        So these same companies are complaining that it is harder to target people because Apple has instituted the ability for people to say no to targeting. Should the government come in there? Would Truth Social like the Biden administration coming in and telling them what they can post?
        smaryjerry 4y ago
        I don’t think that is a common carrier issue. I’m just saying the impact of bans from social media companies, often coordinated among several at once, are more impactful than other companies already listed as common carriers. It’s not like social media is created by these companies, every piece of content shown on the websites was user created and the users deserve protection from malicious and biased actors within the companies.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Do I also deserve “protection” when RedState has banned me twice for not carrying the party line? Do you think Truth Social would welcome my opinions with open arms?
        smaryjerry 4y ago
        I don’t know what red state is, a social media company?I am referring to places where none of the content produced is made by the owner. Places where all content is user created.
        scarface74 4y ago
        RedState is a conservative website that allows comments. I was banned because I didn’t toe the line. Do you think they would have been okay with the Biden administration saying I must be allowed to comment.
        4y ago
  - colinmhayes 4y ago
    No, my job requires me to have internet while travelling. That means phone companies. It could be solved, but would have a huge impact on my life.
- anon291 4y ago
  This is not true. You need a Facebook account to interact with a lot of businesses. Many businesses don't have normal websites for better or worse. Many government agencies announce things through Twitter and Facebook for better or worse (worse in my opinion).
  - deathanatos 4y ago
    I've been logged out of Facebook for like 10 years, and in that time, I've not once needed my FB account to interact with a business. > Many government agencies announce things through Twitter and Facebook for better or worse Twitter seems to be the more common of the two there. They should not do that.
    - mr_toad 4y ago
      You don’t need a Twitter account to read Twitter post anyway. You can open the page incognito mode and sterilise it when done.
      - anon291 4y ago
        On mobile, it keeps making me log in.
  - gamacodre 4y ago
    And yet, with no functioning Facebook or Twitter account, I seem to have no problem finding businesses that sell the things I'm interested in. Most local issues of actual importance are still mentioned in the newspaper. Facebook could get their databases and backups wiped tomorrow and I'm pretty sure nothing would substantively change in my life or my work (and I work in tech). Same goes for Twitter. I might be exposed to less second-hand stupidity on an average day. I see lots of hand-wringing about them being somehow equivalent to power plants or water districts, but to me it seems like a tortuous justification for "make them act how I want them to act".
    - anon291 4y ago
paxys 4y ago
> becoming important to just do daily business How is any social network today important for daily business? You can live a perfectly normal life after deleting every single one of them, and so many people have done exactly that. Facebook is not equivalent to electricity or running water.
scarface74 4y ago
The phone companies and utilities are natural monopolies. Creating a social media platform isn’t. Doesn’t every senior developer interview at a BigTech company involve a question “how would you design Twitter?”.

NovemberWhiskey 4y ago

99.5% of Americans could never log into Facebook, Twitter or anything ever again with no substantial impact on their daily lives. The remaining 0.5% have careers centered around social media and should probably find a real job. Honest to goodness, the hyperventilation about how "important" social media is just amazes me.

smaryjerry 4y ago
And 100% of people could live without phone companies with no impact to their daily lives, we’ve got internet right? Of course I would be the one defining impact here. You may consider impact to daily lives not substantial, but others see the substantial impact of not being able to reach their family, friends, and customers and the disadvantage that comes with others having that access but you not. It’s not like Facebook actually is making the “social media” you see in your feed, it is 100% carrying social media from users, the same way a phone company aren’t the one making calls.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Are you really comparing the level of effort of setting a phone company to creating a social media platform or a website to get your ideas out there?
  - smaryjerry 4y ago
    Exactly. There is much lower hanging fruit but if you ask someone what is more valuable to their business, phone service or social media, many would choose social media.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      So these same companies are complaining that it is harder to target people because Apple has instituted the ability for people to say no to targeting. Should the government come in there? Would Truth Social like the Biden administration coming in and telling them what they can post?
      - smaryjerry 4y ago
        I don’t think that is a common carrier issue. I’m just saying the impact of bans from social media companies, often coordinated among several at once, are more impactful than other companies already listed as common carriers. It’s not like social media is created by these companies, every piece of content shown on the websites was user created and the users deserve protection from malicious and biased actors within the companies.
        scarface74 4y ago
        Do I also deserve “protection” when RedState has banned me twice for not carrying the party line? Do you think Truth Social would welcome my opinions with open arms?
        smaryjerry 4y ago
        I don’t know what red state is, a social media company?I am referring to places where none of the content produced is made by the owner. Places where all content is user created.
        scarface74 4y ago
        RedState is a conservative website that allows comments. I was banned because I didn’t toe the line. Do you think they would have been okay with the Biden administration saying I must be allowed to comment.
        4y ago
- colinmhayes 4y ago
  No, my job requires me to have internet while travelling. That means phone companies. It could be solved, but would have a huge impact on my life.
anon291 4y ago
This is not true. You need a Facebook account to interact with a lot of businesses. Many businesses don't have normal websites for better or worse. Many government agencies announce things through Twitter and Facebook for better or worse (worse in my opinion).
- deathanatos 4y ago
  I've been logged out of Facebook for like 10 years, and in that time, I've not once needed my FB account to interact with a business. > Many government agencies announce things through Twitter and Facebook for better or worse Twitter seems to be the more common of the two there. They should not do that.
  - mr_toad 4y ago
    You don’t need a Twitter account to read Twitter post anyway. You can open the page incognito mode and sterilise it when done.
    - anon291 4y ago
      On mobile, it keeps making me log in.
- gamacodre 4y ago
  And yet, with no functioning Facebook or Twitter account, I seem to have no problem finding businesses that sell the things I'm interested in. Most local issues of actual importance are still mentioned in the newspaper. Facebook could get their databases and backups wiped tomorrow and I'm pretty sure nothing would substantively change in my life or my work (and I work in tech). Same goes for Twitter. I might be exposed to less second-hand stupidity on an average day. I see lots of hand-wringing about them being somehow equivalent to power plants or water districts, but to me it seems like a tortuous justification for "make them act how I want them to act".
  - anon291 4y ago

paxys 4y ago

> becoming important to just do daily business How is any social network today important for daily business? You can live a perfectly normal life after deleting every single one of them, and so many people have done exactly that. Facebook is not equivalent to electricity or running water.

scarface74 4y ago

The phone companies and utilities are natural monopolies. Creating a social media platform isn’t. Doesn’t every senior developer interview at a BigTech company involve a question “how would you design Twitter?”.