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Very weird that the bombings and violence happen in the cities yet the vast majority of SD voters live deep in the countryside or in much smaller towns. Somethi

Very weird that the bombings and violence happen in the cities yet the vast majority of SD voters live deep in the countryside or in much smaller towns. Something is fishy… maybe the real issue is that people in the country-side everywhere in the world (US, France, Portugal, Sweden, etc…) feel like they are losing and have been losing for a few decades now.

yucky 4y ago
Are they wrong?
- jdmoreira 4y ago
  No they are not. They should blame many things for that. Globalization, Government policies towards the inner regions and to some extent even themselves. I grew up in the interior and it was awful in part because the people made it awful.
inglor_cz 4y ago
"yet the vast majority of SD voters live deep in the countryside" Is that true? AFAIK SD vote mostly concentrates around and in Malmö, an urban agglomeration. "feel like they are losing and have been losing for a few decades now." As the article mentions, one of the main topics of this election was "law and order", not "the countryside is losing".
- jdmoreira 4y ago
  So you would consider the whole region of Skäne and Blekinge a Mälmo suburb? I spent many hours looking at the results maps last monday and to me it was obvious the percentages were much higher in countryside. Didn't look far up north to be honest but most of the population lives in the south anyway.
- jdmoreira 4y ago
  > As the article mentions, one of the main topics of this election was "law and order", not "the countryside is losing". And who loves law and order more than close minded people? Another big topic of the elections was the energy crisis and the price of gas… who loves their cheap gas in Sweden? Those cadillacs and heated houses are not cheap to fuel. I wonder if HN even knows most Cadillacs in the world are in middle Sweden. Swedish Hillbilly culture just blows my mind
  - blub 4y ago
    People that don’t want to get hit by stray bullets in gang shootings probably love law and order more than close minded people. Very weird thing to say by the way, as if law and order are somehow bad and only bad people would love such things.
    - jdmoreira 4y ago
      The "law" and police are regularly used as an instrument of oppression. Certainly you know gay clubs used to be raided and gay people arrested and beaten up by the police not until that long ago. In Russia today it's the police making sure no one speaks their mind. The Uyghurs in China are persecuted by Chinese law and order. Blacks in the deep south a century ago? And goes on and on and on… But yeah… historically if you have been a white straight cis man the law has maybe not have been that mean towards you since the end of feudalism. Other people though…
      - blub 4y ago
        On the one hand law and order are the solution that democratic societies based on rule of law have found for fighting crime and solving conflicts. It’s quite literally the best system humanity has come up with. The alternatives are militias, mob rule, gangs or anarchy, where gay people, blacks, Russians and Uyghurs don’t fare better. On the other hand, one could also rediscover the benefits of law and order by getting hit by a bullet in one of the by now notorious Swedish gang wars.
        ZeroGravitas 4y ago
        "Law and order" is not a reference to having laws and order, it's a reference to this concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_order Hence why the people calling for "law and order" are often calling for and doing illegal things.
        blub 4y ago
Siddarth1977 4y ago
This is such a hilariously evil comment. The article is about how disenfranchised Swedish citizens are tired of being victimized by crime and violence and having their legitimate concerns for safety be invalidated and ignored by false accusations of racism... and you turn around and continue to ignore what they're telling you to instead insinuate some other imaginary real reason for their voting changes. Maybe try actually listening to people and trying to help, instead of making up a cynical reason why they're bad people whose complaints can be ignored? If you read an article about a women's group concerned about sexual assault, would you be so quick to disregard their statements and try to find a hidden "real issue" to shift blame to?
- jdmoreira 4y ago
  I'm an immigrant in Sweden but according to you I'm just coming here making evil comments because I have nothing better to do. While the reality of the situation is that I've given this much thought and have personal relationships to many SD voters in the country side. Not the best relationships sometimes. Also these are not the most self-aware people in the world in 99% of cases.
slim 4y ago
or maybe it's false flags by right wing. see operation Gladio.
njdvndsjkvn 4y ago
You think that the real issue of bombings in Sweden is that SD voters live in the countryside?
- jdmoreira 4y ago
  Just questioning the causality link between the bombings in the cities and the rise of SD. These people for the most part don't even like city dwellers. The president of the party doesn't even live in a major metropolitan area. Why are they so worried about gangs and bombings when those are for the most part urban problems? Doesn't peak your interest? It sure peaks mine.

yucky 4y ago

Are they wrong?

jdmoreira 4y ago
No they are not. They should blame many things for that. Globalization, Government policies towards the inner regions and to some extent even themselves. I grew up in the interior and it was awful in part because the people made it awful.

inglor_cz 4y ago

"yet the vast majority of SD voters live deep in the countryside" Is that true? AFAIK SD vote mostly concentrates around and in Malmö, an urban agglomeration. "feel like they are losing and have been losing for a few decades now." As the article mentions, one of the main topics of this election was "law and order", not "the countryside is losing".

jdmoreira 4y ago
So you would consider the whole region of Skäne and Blekinge a Mälmo suburb? I spent many hours looking at the results maps last monday and to me it was obvious the percentages were much higher in countryside. Didn't look far up north to be honest but most of the population lives in the south anyway.
jdmoreira 4y ago
> As the article mentions, one of the main topics of this election was "law and order", not "the countryside is losing". And who loves law and order more than close minded people? Another big topic of the elections was the energy crisis and the price of gas… who loves their cheap gas in Sweden? Those cadillacs and heated houses are not cheap to fuel. I wonder if HN even knows most Cadillacs in the world are in middle Sweden. Swedish Hillbilly culture just blows my mind
- blub 4y ago
  People that don’t want to get hit by stray bullets in gang shootings probably love law and order more than close minded people. Very weird thing to say by the way, as if law and order are somehow bad and only bad people would love such things.
  - jdmoreira 4y ago
    The "law" and police are regularly used as an instrument of oppression. Certainly you know gay clubs used to be raided and gay people arrested and beaten up by the police not until that long ago. In Russia today it's the police making sure no one speaks their mind. The Uyghurs in China are persecuted by Chinese law and order. Blacks in the deep south a century ago? And goes on and on and on… But yeah… historically if you have been a white straight cis man the law has maybe not have been that mean towards you since the end of feudalism. Other people though…
    - blub 4y ago
      On the one hand law and order are the solution that democratic societies based on rule of law have found for fighting crime and solving conflicts. It’s quite literally the best system humanity has come up with. The alternatives are militias, mob rule, gangs or anarchy, where gay people, blacks, Russians and Uyghurs don’t fare better. On the other hand, one could also rediscover the benefits of law and order by getting hit by a bullet in one of the by now notorious Swedish gang wars.
      - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
        "Law and order" is not a reference to having laws and order, it's a reference to this concept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_order https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_and_order Hence why the people calling for "law and order" are often calling for and doing illegal things.
        blub 4y ago

Siddarth1977 4y ago

This is such a hilariously evil comment. The article is about how disenfranchised Swedish citizens are tired of being victimized by crime and violence and having their legitimate concerns for safety be invalidated and ignored by false accusations of racism... and you turn around and continue to ignore what they're telling you to instead insinuate some other imaginary real reason for their voting changes. Maybe try actually listening to people and trying to help, instead of making up a cynical reason why they're bad people whose complaints can be ignored? If you read an article about a women's group concerned about sexual assault, would you be so quick to disregard their statements and try to find a hidden "real issue" to shift blame to?

jdmoreira 4y ago
I'm an immigrant in Sweden but according to you I'm just coming here making evil comments because I have nothing better to do. While the reality of the situation is that I've given this much thought and have personal relationships to many SD voters in the country side. Not the best relationships sometimes. Also these are not the most self-aware people in the world in 99% of cases.

slim 4y ago

or maybe it's false flags by right wing. see operation Gladio.

njdvndsjkvn 4y ago

You think that the real issue of bombings in Sweden is that SD voters live in the countryside?

jdmoreira 4y ago
Just questioning the causality link between the bombings in the cities and the rise of SD. These people for the most part don't even like city dwellers. The president of the party doesn't even live in a major metropolitan area. Why are they so worried about gangs and bombings when those are for the most part urban problems? Doesn't peak your interest? It sure peaks mine.