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Nvidia launches first SaaS Offering

37 points by kjkisielewicz 4y ago

freediver 4y ago
Seeing more and more submissions recently break this guideline: > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Time for guideline change or stricter enforcement?
- deleted 4y ago
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- madeofpalk 4y ago
  > NVIDIA Launches Omniverse Cloud Services for Building and Operating Industrial Metaverse Applications Is this really a better title? OPs contains just as much information.
  - freediver 4y ago
    It's not about which title is better (I agree OP's better) but the guideline saying do not editorialize the title. So either a bad/irrelevant guideline or not properly enforced.
    - bhhaskin 4y ago
      Or are guidelines instead of stead fast rules.
      - freediver 4y ago
        Good point. I (think I) remember seeing guidelines being used to enforce a mod action though, so then they would stop being guideliness and become rules.
        bhhaskin 4y ago
        I don't think things are so black and white. The mods can pretty much do whatever they want at the end of the day. They also give a lot of leeway.
        freediver 4y ago
        I guess my engineering mind is wanting things to be more black and white.
        bhhaskin 4y ago
        I hear you. I'm the same way.
- ziddoap 4y ago
  "NVIDIA Launches Omniverse Cloud Services for Building and Operating Industrial Metaverse Applications" Seems a bit long for the title, and "Company’s First SaaS Offering" is the first four words of the subtitle. Seems pretty reasonable?
- xen2xen1 4y ago
  The last time I saw it enforced, it was for a MUCH more material change of the title. Something like, "New Product Announced!" to "Change you password now!", hiding it was basically an ad, etc. This doesn't mention the Metaverse part (which is material), but it's also more of a summarization and not an outright deception.
cercatrova 4y ago
Eventually, every company will tend towards services. Monthly income flows are more enticing than one-time ones.
- robotnikman 4y ago
  And the internet is what makes such a thing possible...
  - cercatrova 4y ago
    Services doesn't necessarily mean internet based. If I run a local coffee shop, I can sell one bag of coffee or a subscription to monthly coffee, just pay upfront and come in to the store to pick it up.
- sottol 4y ago
  And when that happens (and if buyers ever get fed up), the pendulum will swing back as it will be a competitive advantage to offer one-time pricing and someone will exploit that edge. But that supposes buyers will care enough.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    > And when that happens (and if buyers ever get fed up), the pendulum will swing back as it will be a competitive advantage to offer one-time pricing and someone will exploit that edge. Why would they? If it's more profitable for a company to charge their users forever, have tighter control over their product and how it's used, and have the option to collect massive amounts of personal data nobody is going to give all that up for a somewhat larger percentage of interested users. There are all kinds of products consumers want and would pay good money for that nobody has any interest in providing because they can get much richer by not giving consumers those things.
    - returnInfinity 4y ago
      If I get a one time opportunity to grab 100 million dollar in sales, I will take. I don't need recurring 100 million dollar revenue.
ramesh31 4y ago
Tangentially related, but GeForce Now is absolutely incredible. It seems like they’ve finally cracked game streaming. If you have a solid wired connection, it is practically unnoticeable for single player games at this point. They also made the (genius) decision to integrate it with multiple existing stores like Steam and GOG rather than building their own. I don’t know if I’ll ever buy a gaming PC again.
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  I am moving in two weeks to a place that has gigabit fiber. Maybe I should give this a shot!
- account-5 4y ago
  If everyone thought this they'd put themselves out of the consumer hardware business.
  - mattnewton 4y ago
    I think they would rather be the group to put themselves out of that business than someone else, like amd + amazon for Luna or amd + google for stadia
  - TaylorAlexander 4y ago
    Well, they may make it more accessible to get in to gaming, and then having increased the number of gamers they may find more customers looking for a local experience. Maybe college students gaming on the fiber network at school coming home to a poor internet connection, or nerds who start gaming on a laptop but decide to build out a whole gaming rig with the best performance. I think this kind of thing has some complexity to it.
- DIVx0 4y ago
  I've been a GeForce Now subscriber since the start. It's a good service that is prevented by publishers from being great. Two major pain points for me: 1) I can't play my whole library. During the beta I was able to play pretty much my whole steam library but that changed after GFN went live. I accept that some titles may have technical limitations but thats far from universal. Like, why can't I play Red Dead Redemption II on GFN but I can on Stadia? Pure publisher bullshit, that's why 2) I wish Nvidia made it possible to apply mods to games. Steam workshop mods work if supported but the majority of games do not support that. I don't often mod but when I do its usually to correct some 'quality of life' issue. I ended up buying a Steamdeck to game on instead of GFN.. I hope the arbitrary restrictions holding it back disappear someday
fxtentacle 4y ago
It's not the first, Geforce Now has been around for a while.
- saghm 4y ago
  I might misunderstand the exact definition of Saas, but I thought it referred to subscriptions specifically. I think GeForce Now is free, but just not particularly useful without having bought an nvidia GPU. Is there any sort of recurring payment aspect to it, or am I just assuming a more narrow definition of SaaS than you? EDIT: I think I confused GeForce Now with the GeForce Experience or whatever the driver management/game overlay thing is. From searching, it definitely is a subscription service
- d1sxeyes 4y ago
  Geforce Now is not really SaaS, the model is more PaaS (if you consider what you're actually doing - renting a gaming PC with a graphics card as a platform to run Steam/Epic/whatever).
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19h 4y ago
I'm _extremely_ excited about the NEMO LLM service. Looking forward to how this will turn out in reality. I hope the pricing will be attractive enough though.
- MuffinFlavored 4y ago
  https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/gpu-cloud/nemo-llm-service/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/gpu-cloud/nemo-llm-service/ > Easily customize and use massively large language models (LLMs) for high-performance AI.

37 points by kjkisielewicz 4y ago

Seeing more and more submissions recently break this guideline: > Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Time for guideline change or stricter enforcement?

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madeofpalk 4y ago
> NVIDIA Launches Omniverse Cloud Services for Building and Operating Industrial Metaverse Applications Is this really a better title? OPs contains just as much information.
- freediver 4y ago
  It's not about which title is better (I agree OP's better) but the guideline saying do not editorialize the title. So either a bad/irrelevant guideline or not properly enforced.
  - bhhaskin 4y ago
    Or are guidelines instead of stead fast rules.
    - freediver 4y ago
      Good point. I (think I) remember seeing guidelines being used to enforce a mod action though, so then they would stop being guideliness and become rules.
      - bhhaskin 4y ago
        I don't think things are so black and white. The mods can pretty much do whatever they want at the end of the day. They also give a lot of leeway.
        freediver 4y ago
        I guess my engineering mind is wanting things to be more black and white.
        bhhaskin 4y ago
        I hear you. I'm the same way.
ziddoap 4y ago
"NVIDIA Launches Omniverse Cloud Services for Building and Operating Industrial Metaverse Applications" Seems a bit long for the title, and "Company’s First SaaS Offering" is the first four words of the subtitle. Seems pretty reasonable?
xen2xen1 4y ago
The last time I saw it enforced, it was for a MUCH more material change of the title. Something like, "New Product Announced!" to "Change you password now!", hiding it was basically an ad, etc. This doesn't mention the Metaverse part (which is material), but it's also more of a summarization and not an outright deception.

cercatrova 4y ago

Eventually, every company will tend towards services. Monthly income flows are more enticing than one-time ones.

robotnikman 4y ago
And the internet is what makes such a thing possible...
- cercatrova 4y ago
  Services doesn't necessarily mean internet based. If I run a local coffee shop, I can sell one bag of coffee or a subscription to monthly coffee, just pay upfront and come in to the store to pick it up.
sottol 4y ago
And when that happens (and if buyers ever get fed up), the pendulum will swing back as it will be a competitive advantage to offer one-time pricing and someone will exploit that edge. But that supposes buyers will care enough.
- autoexec 4y ago
  > And when that happens (and if buyers ever get fed up), the pendulum will swing back as it will be a competitive advantage to offer one-time pricing and someone will exploit that edge. Why would they? If it's more profitable for a company to charge their users forever, have tighter control over their product and how it's used, and have the option to collect massive amounts of personal data nobody is going to give all that up for a somewhat larger percentage of interested users. There are all kinds of products consumers want and would pay good money for that nobody has any interest in providing because they can get much richer by not giving consumers those things.
  - returnInfinity 4y ago
    If I get a one time opportunity to grab 100 million dollar in sales, I will take. I don't need recurring 100 million dollar revenue.

ramesh31 4y ago

Tangentially related, but GeForce Now is absolutely incredible. It seems like they’ve finally cracked game streaming. If you have a solid wired connection, it is practically unnoticeable for single player games at this point. They also made the (genius) decision to integrate it with multiple existing stores like Steam and GOG rather than building their own. I don’t know if I’ll ever buy a gaming PC again.

TaylorAlexander 4y ago
I am moving in two weeks to a place that has gigabit fiber. Maybe I should give this a shot!
account-5 4y ago
If everyone thought this they'd put themselves out of the consumer hardware business.
- mattnewton 4y ago
  I think they would rather be the group to put themselves out of that business than someone else, like amd + amazon for Luna or amd + google for stadia
- TaylorAlexander 4y ago
  Well, they may make it more accessible to get in to gaming, and then having increased the number of gamers they may find more customers looking for a local experience. Maybe college students gaming on the fiber network at school coming home to a poor internet connection, or nerds who start gaming on a laptop but decide to build out a whole gaming rig with the best performance. I think this kind of thing has some complexity to it.
DIVx0 4y ago
I've been a GeForce Now subscriber since the start. It's a good service that is prevented by publishers from being great. Two major pain points for me: 1) I can't play my whole library. During the beta I was able to play pretty much my whole steam library but that changed after GFN went live. I accept that some titles may have technical limitations but thats far from universal. Like, why can't I play Red Dead Redemption II on GFN but I can on Stadia? Pure publisher bullshit, that's why 2) I wish Nvidia made it possible to apply mods to games. Steam workshop mods work if supported but the majority of games do not support that. I don't often mod but when I do its usually to correct some 'quality of life' issue. I ended up buying a Steamdeck to game on instead of GFN.. I hope the arbitrary restrictions holding it back disappear someday

fxtentacle 4y ago

It's not the first, Geforce Now has been around for a while.

saghm 4y ago
I might misunderstand the exact definition of Saas, but I thought it referred to subscriptions specifically. I think GeForce Now is free, but just not particularly useful without having bought an nvidia GPU. Is there any sort of recurring payment aspect to it, or am I just assuming a more narrow definition of SaaS than you? EDIT: I think I confused GeForce Now with the GeForce Experience or whatever the driver management/game overlay thing is. From searching, it definitely is a subscription service
d1sxeyes 4y ago
Geforce Now is not really SaaS, the model is more PaaS (if you consider what you're actually doing - renting a gaming PC with a graphics card as a platform to run Steam/Epic/whatever).

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19h 4y ago

I'm _extremely_ excited about the NEMO LLM service. Looking forward to how this will turn out in reality. I hope the pricing will be attractive enough though.

MuffinFlavored 4y ago
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/gpu-cloud/nemo-llm-service/ https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/gpu-cloud/nemo-llm-service/ > Easily customize and use massively large language models (LLMs) for high-performance AI.