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Was scanning for this thanks for pointing it out. Some of these banners are infuriating, and if I use firefox containers sometimes I see them over and over, esp

by shishy 4y ago

Was scanning for this thanks for pointing it out. Some of these banners are infuriating, and if I use firefox containers sometimes I see them over and over, especially if I'm clearing my cookies. It is insane to me that this isn't already a standard.

shadowgovt 4y ago
Standardization was attempted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track the tl;dr for that story is that it wasn't mandated to be honored, the industry didn't voluntarily adopt it widely, and when IE 10 tried to turn it on by default and the standard's lead supporter responded by submitting a patch to Apache web server to ignore the DNT signal coming from IE 10 because "does not protect anyone's privacy unless the recipients believe it was set by a real human being, with a real preference for privacy over personalization," that situation pretty much killed it in the crib. The problem is technologically simple to solve; all the challenges are social and legal.
- Dalewyn 4y ago
  It's kind of hilarious that of all the datapoints websites will gorge upon, DNT is the one thing they all toss out.
- m463 4y ago
  I believe DNT was used for better browser fingerprinting.
- cphoover 4y ago
  I wonder if a browser plugin that utilizes AI would work as a sidestep to a standardized cookie dialog. Granted someone would have to build such a tool and standardization seems inevitable at some point. Shouldn't be too difficult to build something like that.
  - weberer 4y ago
    There's a browser plugin called uMatrix that lets you block cookies and javascript on a per-site basis. I just have it blocking all cookies by default unless its a site I need to log in to.
tagawa 4y ago
There is a standard that has some recognition and uptake (though needs more) - Global Privacy Control. It’s been adopted by some browsers and publishers, and IIRC is a requirement for CCPA (California Consumer Privacy Act) compliance. https://globalprivacycontrol.org/ https://globalprivacycontrol.org/
- hunterb123 4y ago
  They'll just make it so complicated where you have to use an embed from Google or something to implement it properly, similar to CCPA. In the end Google ends up in a script on the page somehow in the name of privacy.
nicbou 4y ago
uBlock Origins has "annoyances" blocklists that takes care of most of those banners.

by shishy 4y ago

shadowgovt 4y ago

Standardization was attempted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Track the tl;dr for that story is that it wasn't mandated to be honored, the industry didn't voluntarily adopt it widely, and when IE 10 tried to turn it on by default and the standard's lead supporter responded by submitting a patch to Apache web server to ignore the DNT signal coming from IE 10 because "does not protect anyone's privacy unless the recipients believe it was set by a real human being, with a real preference for privacy over personalization," that situation pretty much killed it in the crib. The problem is technologically simple to solve; all the challenges are social and legal.

Dalewyn 4y ago
It's kind of hilarious that of all the datapoints websites will gorge upon, DNT is the one thing they all toss out.
m463 4y ago
I believe DNT was used for better browser fingerprinting.
cphoover 4y ago
I wonder if a browser plugin that utilizes AI would work as a sidestep to a standardized cookie dialog. Granted someone would have to build such a tool and standardization seems inevitable at some point. Shouldn't be too difficult to build something like that.
- weberer 4y ago
  There's a browser plugin called uMatrix that lets you block cookies and javascript on a per-site basis. I just have it blocking all cookies by default unless its a site I need to log in to.

tagawa 4y ago

There is a standard that has some recognition and uptake (though needs more) - Global Privacy Control. It’s been adopted by some browsers and publishers, and IIRC is a requirement for CCPA (California Consumer Privacy Act) compliance. https://globalprivacycontrol.org/ https://globalprivacycontrol.org/

hunterb123 4y ago
They'll just make it so complicated where you have to use an embed from Google or something to implement it properly, similar to CCPA. In the end Google ends up in a script on the page somehow in the name of privacy.

nicbou 4y ago

uBlock Origins has "annoyances" blocklists that takes care of most of those banners.