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Indeed, we use it professionally. If you can server boost to level 2, it's quite nice for screen sharing. In my opinion, it's also set up way better than slack

by chomp 4y ago

Indeed, we use it professionally. If you can server boost to level 2, it's quite nice for screen sharing. In my opinion, it's also set up way better than slack for voice channels. Krisp is the icing on the cake.

metadat 4y ago
I'd actually not seriously considered it before, but in many ways Discord is a lot better and friendlier UX than Slack. Paying $120k/yr for 1k users is just madness, I was thinking I'd rather force everyone to use a self-hosted IRC server rather than pay $10/user/month for a basic text chat application. I like the Discord solution much better :) What would Discord cost for a comparable organization size? Edit: Womp, womp. Discord "Nitro" is almost the exact same price per user as Slack: $9.99/mo or $99.99/year. Maybe you don't need premium Discord, but these are the accounts subsidizing the freemium users and thus making the business viable. What should the annual cost be to provide chat to 1,000 users? The amount of data can probably add up kinda fast, and retaining and indexing it all to make it searchable at scale is not trivial. Hmm. Conclusion: I guess the outrage I felt when I upvoted this story was just sticker shock :)
- oceanplexian 4y ago
  I guess I'm in the other boat. It sounds pricy but not crazy unreasonable, if $10/mo for a core productivity tool (per employee) is too much, I wonder what that 1k employee business is actually doing. In the USA the median wage is $41,000/yr per employee, with tech companies paying far more, so like 0.02% per employee? Does Slack make an employee more than 0.02% productive vs trying to use IRC or Discord? I'd argue it's pretty obvious that it does.
  - metadat 4y ago
    Yeah, we're in agreement @oceanplexian. Thanks for the sanity check! As I've stated in the edit in the grandparent post, my initial reaction appears to have been only early-morning groggy sticker shock. I'm now going to open my computer and proceed about my day, a significant portion of which will be spent on Slack. :D Cheers bud.
  - fps 4y ago
    In this case, it's a community with 1K members, not a company with 1K employees.
  - fragmede 4y ago
    I mean in the high-flying world of well-funded VC businesses with billion dollar valuations, $120k is a rounding error. But what about any number of hobby communities that previously had to pass the hat to pay for the $40/month Meetup.com fee? Knitting communities and metal detectorists. Salesforce bought it and so is free to price their chat app however they want, and yeah there is a free tier, but don't walk away thinking $$7.25/month is at all affordable for many communities.
  - davidguetta 4y ago
    Sure, but once again its a bloody text messaging app. Mattermost is almost free compared to that.. people paying 120k a year for that have lost their mind regardless of the value they extract from it.

by chomp 4y ago

metadat 4y ago

I'd actually not seriously considered it before, but in many ways Discord is a lot better and friendlier UX than Slack. Paying $120k/yr for 1k users is just madness, I was thinking I'd rather force everyone to use a self-hosted IRC server rather than pay $10/user/month for a basic text chat application. I like the Discord solution much better :) What would Discord cost for a comparable organization size? Edit: Womp, womp. Discord "Nitro" is almost the exact same price per user as Slack: $9.99/mo or $99.99/year. Maybe you don't need premium Discord, but these are the accounts subsidizing the freemium users and thus making the business viable. What should the annual cost be to provide chat to 1,000 users? The amount of data can probably add up kinda fast, and retaining and indexing it all to make it searchable at scale is not trivial. Hmm. Conclusion: I guess the outrage I felt when I upvoted this story was just sticker shock :)

oceanplexian 4y ago
I guess I'm in the other boat. It sounds pricy but not crazy unreasonable, if $10/mo for a core productivity tool (per employee) is too much, I wonder what that 1k employee business is actually doing. In the USA the median wage is $41,000/yr per employee, with tech companies paying far more, so like 0.02% per employee? Does Slack make an employee more than 0.02% productive vs trying to use IRC or Discord? I'd argue it's pretty obvious that it does.
- metadat 4y ago
  Yeah, we're in agreement @oceanplexian. Thanks for the sanity check! As I've stated in the edit in the grandparent post, my initial reaction appears to have been only early-morning groggy sticker shock. I'm now going to open my computer and proceed about my day, a significant portion of which will be spent on Slack. :D Cheers bud.
- fps 4y ago
  In this case, it's a community with 1K members, not a company with 1K employees.
- fragmede 4y ago
  I mean in the high-flying world of well-funded VC businesses with billion dollar valuations, $120k is a rounding error. But what about any number of hobby communities that previously had to pass the hat to pay for the $40/month Meetup.com fee? Knitting communities and metal detectorists. Salesforce bought it and so is free to price their chat app however they want, and yeah there is a free tier, but don't walk away thinking $$7.25/month is at all affordable for many communities.
- davidguetta 4y ago
  Sure, but once again its a bloody text messaging app. Mattermost is almost free compared to that.. people paying 120k a year for that have lost their mind regardless of the value they extract from it.