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I have no opinions on the article itself, but I am interested in whether the same actors also acted in coordination to suppress Lab Leak given that they were al

by kodah 4y ago

I have no opinions on the article itself, but I am interested in whether the same actors also acted in coordination to suppress Lab Leak given that they were also implicated. > Rather, they were the fruits of an aggressive attempt to shape the news by the same government officials whose policies the epidemiologists had criticized. Emails between Fauci and Collins revealed that the two officials had worked together and with media outlets as various as Wired and The Nation to orchestrate a “takedown” of the declaration. I have no idea if Lab Leak theory is still viable, or rather if it can ever be fully proven, but the censorship it got from private entities leads me to believe there was government support involved. Latest on Lab Leak: https://theintercept.com/2022/05/06/deconstructed-lab-leak-covid-katherine-eban/ https://theintercept.com/2022/05/06/deconstructed-lab-leak-c...

themitigating 4y ago
Has it been partially proven? Because I think saying "fully proving" implies there is some proof when there is none
- kodah 4y ago
  The Intercept does a better job of explaining that. The problem with Lab Leak is that because it was suppressed for so long there's been a lot of time to destroy evidence. At that point the "smoking guns" are pretty few and far between though they mention at least one in that article. There's plenty of evidence in the article, saying that there is none is incorrect. I don't know why you'd be saying that.
  - themitigating 4y ago
    Wouldn't there also be no evidence if it wasn't true?
    - kodah 4y ago
      Did you read the article or are you intentionally asking me questions that The Intercept has already asked notable scientists? Lab Leak theory isn't unfounded, it comes from a fact-based position that already went through numerous layers of questioning because Peter Daszak declared the general question it was trying to answer (eg: Is it possible that gain of function experiments escaped the lab) racist. Even if you don't buy Lab Leak theory the various tidbits about EcoHealth are quite alarming. At a bseline they accepted a DARPA contract to do gain of function research. Is that a way that we want our government functioning? An NGO with very little oversight that does very little oversight taking government money and giving it to institutions in other countries. All of this the Intercept article also talks about. Edit: Based on this users comments I now understand they're not asking questions in good faith. Their profile: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=themitigating https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=themitigating Other comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=themitigating https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=themitigating

by kodah 4y ago

themitigating 4y ago

Has it been partially proven? Because I think saying "fully proving" implies there is some proof when there is none

kodah 4y ago
The Intercept does a better job of explaining that. The problem with Lab Leak is that because it was suppressed for so long there's been a lot of time to destroy evidence. At that point the "smoking guns" are pretty few and far between though they mention at least one in that article. There's plenty of evidence in the article, saying that there is none is incorrect. I don't know why you'd be saying that.
- themitigating 4y ago
  Wouldn't there also be no evidence if it wasn't true?
  - kodah 4y ago
    Did you read the article or are you intentionally asking me questions that The Intercept has already asked notable scientists? Lab Leak theory isn't unfounded, it comes from a fact-based position that already went through numerous layers of questioning because Peter Daszak declared the general question it was trying to answer (eg: Is it possible that gain of function experiments escaped the lab) racist. Even if you don't buy Lab Leak theory the various tidbits about EcoHealth are quite alarming. At a bseline they accepted a DARPA contract to do gain of function research. Is that a way that we want our government functioning? An NGO with very little oversight that does very little oversight taking government money and giving it to institutions in other countries. All of this the Intercept article also talks about. Edit: Based on this users comments I now understand they're not asking questions in good faith. Their profile: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=themitigating https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=themitigating Other comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=themitigating https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=themitigating