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Yup. And if you put Sundar Pichai and Mark Zuckerberg in jail for a year or two, watch the tech industry whip itself into shape in weeks. Hold people actually r
by ocdtrekkie 4y ago
Yup. And if you put Sundar Pichai and Mark Zuckerberg in jail for a year or two, watch the tech industry whip itself into shape in weeks. Hold people actually responsible for the damage they do and you'll see real change.
- robertlagrant 4y agoI doubt that giving the power to overseas nations to criminalise and incarcerate US citizens has no downsides.
- cyphar 4y agoBelieve it or not, committing a crime in a foreign country as a US citizen will result in you being incarcerated in said country regardless of your citizenship status.
- einpoklum 4y agoMost crimes committed by US citizens in foreign countries are in the context of their military service: War crimes. And instead of being incarcerated for those, they just complete their tour of duty and go home. With any luck there's some public outcry about their crimes, but often not even that. The US is also not party to the Rome statute (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Statute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rome_Statute), and has even threatened to personally target International Criminal Court employees if they try to prosecute US citizens. ... but I suppose you're right about more mundane, non-government-sanctioned crimes.
- robertlagrant 4y agoI do believe it. But that's not relevant, because OP is talking about an additional power.
- cyphar 4y agoIn that case the argument should be about whether or not it should be a criminal offense at all (meaning whether European CEOs should be jailed in the case of malicious actions against their users). The fact it would theoretically extend to people in the US (good luck extraditing them) is IMHO not really an important thing to consider.
- robertlagrant 4y agoWell, that was the example this thread was talking about. You could change the topic and make what we were talking about unimportant, but that seems a bit churlish to phrase it that way : - )
- ocdtrekkie 4y agoBoth individuals have committed crimes (perjury, for starters) here in the United States as well. We can jail them here!
- robertlagrant 4y agoThey can certainly be jailed for crimes, yes.
- registeredcorn 4y agoI understand what you mean, but keep in mind that many nations do have extradition treaties with one another.
- markdestouches 4y agoYou are already eligible for punishment for crimes committed in foreign countries. I don't see how this makes things any different.
- robertlagrant 4y agoSome crimes, yes. If it doesn't make things different, then there's nothing to change. If it does change things, then that's because the US would be allowing it for non-crimes.
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