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I consider Rice and UT-Austin as two of the best universities in a conservative, red state. But they don't get a lot of respect from coastal elites because they

by yardie 4y ago

I consider Rice and UT-Austin as two of the best universities in a conservative, red state. But they don't get a lot of respect from coastal elites because they aren't in NYC or SF.

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LanceH 4y ago
And A&M. But there is no density in Texas. Dallas, Austin, and Houston are 4 hours apart. There is virtually no synergy between them for a corporation other than existing under the same state laws. If these three were all half the distance from each other, and the weather was mild year round, and they were on the coast, it would be a different story.
natch 4y ago
I don't know that those two universities don't get a lot of respect. I have always heard good things about them, here in my elite coastal bubble. As a counterexample, MIT is not in NYC or SF, and it gets respect. For the universities you mention, maybe the (perceived?) sense of lower respect comes from picking up on outsider's suspicions that a Texas university may draw from the state, and thus may have a higher percentage of, you know, people who put tribe and faith ahead of logic and reason (which is not a swipe at all Texans, just more my personal opinion of the red voter types nationwide). Of course those suspicions may be unfounded.
- prottog 4y ago
  Boston is an archetype of the "coastal liberal elite" city in the line of NYC or SF, so clearly it gets respect. ;-) > people who put tribe and faith ahead of logic and reason For many things, one man's logic and reason is another's tribe and faith. A red voter type might see blue voter types engage in all sorts of illogical policy behavior that, to the red voter, appears solely grounded in blue tribalism and orthodoxies that might as well be church doctrine.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    And if you want to talk about university concentration, I'd guess that Boston/Cambridge as well as other locations within a 2 hour drive radius have about the highest concentration of universities (including ones with strong STEM programs) in the country.
- bart_spoon 4y ago
  Boston is very much in the category of "East Coast megacity".

by yardie 4y ago

I consider Rice and UT-Austin as two of the best universities in a conservative, red state. But they don't get a lot of respect from coastal elites because they aren't in NYC or SF.

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LanceH 4y ago

And A&M. But there is no density in Texas. Dallas, Austin, and Houston are 4 hours apart. There is virtually no synergy between them for a corporation other than existing under the same state laws. If these three were all half the distance from each other, and the weather was mild year round, and they were on the coast, it would be a different story.

natch 4y ago

I don't know that those two universities don't get a lot of respect. I have always heard good things about them, here in my elite coastal bubble. As a counterexample, MIT is not in NYC or SF, and it gets respect. For the universities you mention, maybe the (perceived?) sense of lower respect comes from picking up on outsider's suspicions that a Texas university may draw from the state, and thus may have a higher percentage of, you know, people who put tribe and faith ahead of logic and reason (which is not a swipe at all Texans, just more my personal opinion of the red voter types nationwide). Of course those suspicions may be unfounded.

prottog 4y ago
Boston is an archetype of the "coastal liberal elite" city in the line of NYC or SF, so clearly it gets respect. ;-) > people who put tribe and faith ahead of logic and reason For many things, one man's logic and reason is another's tribe and faith. A red voter type might see blue voter types engage in all sorts of illogical policy behavior that, to the red voter, appears solely grounded in blue tribalism and orthodoxies that might as well be church doctrine.
- ghaff 4y ago
  And if you want to talk about university concentration, I'd guess that Boston/Cambridge as well as other locations within a 2 hour drive radius have about the highest concentration of universities (including ones with strong STEM programs) in the country.
bart_spoon 4y ago
Boston is very much in the category of "East Coast megacity".