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"What is fundamentally different with this is how it is now government mandated [emphasis added]." {{Citation needed}} I can't find any government mandates of

"What is fundamentally different with this is how it is now government mandated [emphasis added]." {{Citation needed}} I can't find any government mandates of censorship that your comment complains about. This article is about how the administration said that Facebook was killing people by spreading misinformation, and the company felt shamed into changing what posts it promotes and how it tags them, realizing that doing so would also be more profitable long term. The government has said bad things about a lot of companies and has done so since its formation.

giantg2 4y ago
My comment is not specific to the narrow focus of the article, but rather the larger conversation on this topic which which likely spurred this article. I'm referring to various proposed legislation that would mandate specific moderation, not something that has already occurred.
- lern_too_spel 4y ago
  What proposed legislation?
  - giantg2 4y ago
    There are multiple state level bills. The Journalism Competition and Preservation Act has content moderation provisions. There are also some international bills/laws that will affect the platforms too.
    - lern_too_spel 4y ago
      That bill has nothing to do with mandated moderation and only modifies the rights of content creators (for collective bargaining), not content aggregators. Full text: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/673/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/673.... If there are multiple state level bills mandating moderation, please point to at least one. I know of several that restrict moderation. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/01/social-media-sweeps-the-states-00043229 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/01/social-media-sweeps...
      - giantg2 4y ago
        Ah, yeah i see the content issues in that bill go the other ways (amendment technically). CA has a law that requires reports on social media moderation policies as well as compliance reports. It's thought this will open up liability if they fail to enforce their moderation to a reasonable level. Many of these indirectly mandate moderation through the repeal or modification of section 230. You can already see how that would work by looking a Craigslist personals shutting down. Also note that intermediaries are not protected by section 230 for DMCA infractions (see how police and others use protected music to censor, which takes advantage of the automated censorship tools that were created to comply with the legal mandates). https://www.ourcivicgenius.org/learn/all-the-bills-on-section-230/ https://www.ourcivicgenius.org/learn/all-the-bills-on-sectio... There are international laws which may affect the platforms too, like in France and Germany. It seems that sentiment may be spreading too.
        lern_too_spel 4y ago
        The California law does not mandate moderation either or provide"compliant reports." It simply requires companies to explain how they moderate and provide statistics on how much they did.

giantg2 4y ago

My comment is not specific to the narrow focus of the article, but rather the larger conversation on this topic which which likely spurred this article. I'm referring to various proposed legislation that would mandate specific moderation, not something that has already occurred.

lern_too_spel 4y ago
What proposed legislation?
- giantg2 4y ago
  There are multiple state level bills. The Journalism Competition and Preservation Act has content moderation provisions. There are also some international bills/laws that will affect the platforms too.
  - lern_too_spel 4y ago
    That bill has nothing to do with mandated moderation and only modifies the rights of content creators (for collective bargaining), not content aggregators. Full text: https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/673/text https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/673.... If there are multiple state level bills mandating moderation, please point to at least one. I know of several that restrict moderation. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/01/social-media-sweeps-the-states-00043229 https://www.politico.com/news/2022/07/01/social-media-sweeps...
    - giantg2 4y ago
      Ah, yeah i see the content issues in that bill go the other ways (amendment technically). CA has a law that requires reports on social media moderation policies as well as compliance reports. It's thought this will open up liability if they fail to enforce their moderation to a reasonable level. Many of these indirectly mandate moderation through the repeal or modification of section 230. You can already see how that would work by looking a Craigslist personals shutting down. Also note that intermediaries are not protected by section 230 for DMCA infractions (see how police and others use protected music to censor, which takes advantage of the automated censorship tools that were created to comply with the legal mandates). https://www.ourcivicgenius.org/learn/all-the-bills-on-section-230/ https://www.ourcivicgenius.org/learn/all-the-bills-on-sectio... There are international laws which may affect the platforms too, like in France and Germany. It seems that sentiment may be spreading too.
      - lern_too_spel 4y ago
        The California law does not mandate moderation either or provide"compliant reports." It simply requires companies to explain how they moderate and provide statistics on how much they did.