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How to Tip When No One Carries Cash? Hotels Have an Answer

3 points by malshe 4y ago

malshe 4y ago
Without the paywall: https://www.wsj.com/articles/tipping-hotel-cash-housekeeping-bellhop-11663704890?st=cpjh4sh58tx06ah&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink https://www.wsj.com/articles/tipping-hotel-cash-housekeeping...
elmerfud 4y ago
How about when your base rate is $300/night you pay your staff appropriately. Even a cheap hotel brand is $70/night. Based upon the quality of those places that money isn't used for room upkeep. "She considers $5 a day for a room cleaning that takes 30 to 40 minutes is a fair tip and says housekeepers prefer tips to be paid daily.". The locations and hotels in the article are $150+/night, but this housekeeper feels that the guests should additionally supplement her income by $10 an hour. This is just all levels of wrong. Your employer should be paying your wage from the money they are getting from the customers. If you don't feel your employer is paying you appropriately for the work level go find another job. The problem is housekeeping is a zero skill level job so your next option is "do you want fries with that". Not all jobs deserve to be paid $25 an hour which is what you're expecting with your base pay plus tips. It's time for tipping to just go away. It has had it's day and now that day is done.
- logicalmonster 4y ago
  > It's time for tipping to just go away. Everything about what you said seems reasonable, but there's a problem when it comes to normal everyday life in America if you're not a rich person going out to $$$$ establishments. In America, there's no deep cultural sentiment about providing a good experience like in Japan for instance. Whether a Japanese waiter gets a tip or not, you have a very good chance of getting at least decent and attentive service. But typical service in America can be dreadful, and that's even with a financial incentive. If many Americans weren't paid extra to even pretend to care, basic service standards would be nonexistent. I'm not some highfalutin fancy guy going out to elite establishments and demanding white glove service and pre-chewed caviar on a folded pillow from a valet. I'm just a normal guy going out for a burger or something once in a while and appreciating a waiter coming to my table a few times with a water pitcher and asking me if need anything. Call me selfish or whatever, but service is already beyond awful in the US and I don't see how it improves with removing tipping.
  - elmerfud 4y ago
    Your own evaluation seems to be tipping isn't providing the needed incentive now then it for sure should go away.

3 points by malshe 4y ago

Without the paywall: https://www.wsj.com/articles/tipping-hotel-cash-housekeeping-bellhop-11663704890?st=cpjh4sh58tx06ah&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink https://www.wsj.com/articles/tipping-hotel-cash-housekeeping...

elmerfud 4y ago

How about when your base rate is $300/night you pay your staff appropriately. Even a cheap hotel brand is $70/night. Based upon the quality of those places that money isn't used for room upkeep. "She considers $5 a day for a room cleaning that takes 30 to 40 minutes is a fair tip and says housekeepers prefer tips to be paid daily.". The locations and hotels in the article are $150+/night, but this housekeeper feels that the guests should additionally supplement her income by $10 an hour. This is just all levels of wrong. Your employer should be paying your wage from the money they are getting from the customers. If you don't feel your employer is paying you appropriately for the work level go find another job. The problem is housekeeping is a zero skill level job so your next option is "do you want fries with that". Not all jobs deserve to be paid $25 an hour which is what you're expecting with your base pay plus tips. It's time for tipping to just go away. It has had it's day and now that day is done.

logicalmonster 4y ago
> It's time for tipping to just go away. Everything about what you said seems reasonable, but there's a problem when it comes to normal everyday life in America if you're not a rich person going out to $$$$ establishments. In America, there's no deep cultural sentiment about providing a good experience like in Japan for instance. Whether a Japanese waiter gets a tip or not, you have a very good chance of getting at least decent and attentive service. But typical service in America can be dreadful, and that's even with a financial incentive. If many Americans weren't paid extra to even pretend to care, basic service standards would be nonexistent. I'm not some highfalutin fancy guy going out to elite establishments and demanding white glove service and pre-chewed caviar on a folded pillow from a valet. I'm just a normal guy going out for a burger or something once in a while and appreciating a waiter coming to my table a few times with a water pitcher and asking me if need anything. Call me selfish or whatever, but service is already beyond awful in the US and I don't see how it improves with removing tipping.
- elmerfud 4y ago
  Your own evaluation seems to be tipping isn't providing the needed incentive now then it for sure should go away.