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Then I want you to explain Norway to me. Or Sweden. Or Denmark.

by bborud 4y ago

AbrahamParangi 4y ago
The Nordics are very comparable to New Hampshire in terms of demographics, education, wealth and outcomes. Everyone likes to say “the US should be like the Nordics” but no one ever says “the US should be like New Hampshire”.
- marssaxman 4y ago
  Perhaps that is because Vermont is right next door and it is much prettier - I could definitely imagine someone saying that "more of the US should be like Vermont"!
suggestion 4y ago
Tiny, homogeneous, monocultured, de facto ethnostates that make it very easy to do business and/or have robust fossil fuel reserves are not comparable to massive, diverse, multicultural states with wildly different ethics and values across any number of demographics.
- bborud 4y ago
  You didn't read immigration statistics. Do your homework, then come back.
  - suggestion 4y ago
    You don't understand how long it takes demographic shifts to change a culture, nor the political backlash and parties being voted into power as a result of these consequences.
    - bborud 4y ago
      Again, do your homework. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
      - frumper 4y ago
        It's not very productive in a conversation to just keep telling everyone that disagrees with you to do their homework. Why not provide some points to actually look up?
        bborud 4y ago
        Why not respect people one talks to enough to actually do homework rather than imply it is everyone else's responsibility to make up for someone else's laziness? Is it too much to ask that people mind their manners?
        frumper 4y ago
        You’re on a forum to converse. If you have a point, say it. It’s lazy to tell someone to go do homework. Homework on what? I don’t know, it’s your point that you think is important, but won’t explain it.
rbetts 4y ago
Norway: population of 5M people. Incredible oil wealth. Massachusetts is larger in population that Norway. It's not a reasonable comparison. Sweden: population of 10M people. Roughly the population of Michigan, for example. Just elected a rightward moving parliament on a law and order and immigration-restriction agenda. Denmark: population of 5M people - again - compared to Massachusetts (which is larger by population), not a particularly exceptional place. I admire all of these EU countries but you just can't compare them to the size, geographic distribution, and non-uniformity of the entire US. Why is it no one ever compares Hungary, Latvia, Cyprus .. or other less prosperous EU nations to the US? And never compares highly successful states to the EU as a whole?
- bborud 4y ago
  Lots of countries generate oil revenue. Not all oil-producing countries provide national welfare. You didn't actually think about this. Try again. Do better.

Then I want you to explain Norway to me. Or Sweden. Or Denmark.

by bborud 4y ago

Then I want you to explain Norway to me. Or Sweden. Or Denmark.

The Nordics are very comparable to New Hampshire in terms of demographics, education, wealth and outcomes. Everyone likes to say “the US should be like the Nordics” but no one ever says “the US should be like New Hampshire”.

marssaxman 4y ago
Perhaps that is because Vermont is right next door and it is much prettier - I could definitely imagine someone saying that "more of the US should be like Vermont"!

suggestion 4y ago

Tiny, homogeneous, monocultured, de facto ethnostates that make it very easy to do business and/or have robust fossil fuel reserves are not comparable to massive, diverse, multicultural states with wildly different ethics and values across any number of demographics.

bborud 4y ago
You didn't read immigration statistics. Do your homework, then come back.
- suggestion 4y ago
  You don't understand how long it takes demographic shifts to change a culture, nor the political backlash and parties being voted into power as a result of these consequences.
  - bborud 4y ago
    Again, do your homework. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
    - frumper 4y ago
      It's not very productive in a conversation to just keep telling everyone that disagrees with you to do their homework. Why not provide some points to actually look up?
      - bborud 4y ago
        Why not respect people one talks to enough to actually do homework rather than imply it is everyone else's responsibility to make up for someone else's laziness? Is it too much to ask that people mind their manners?
        frumper 4y ago
        You’re on a forum to converse. If you have a point, say it. It’s lazy to tell someone to go do homework. Homework on what? I don’t know, it’s your point that you think is important, but won’t explain it.

rbetts 4y ago

Norway: population of 5M people. Incredible oil wealth. Massachusetts is larger in population that Norway. It's not a reasonable comparison. Sweden: population of 10M people. Roughly the population of Michigan, for example. Just elected a rightward moving parliament on a law and order and immigration-restriction agenda. Denmark: population of 5M people - again - compared to Massachusetts (which is larger by population), not a particularly exceptional place. I admire all of these EU countries but you just can't compare them to the size, geographic distribution, and non-uniformity of the entire US. Why is it no one ever compares Hungary, Latvia, Cyprus .. or other less prosperous EU nations to the US? And never compares highly successful states to the EU as a whole?

bborud 4y ago
Lots of countries generate oil revenue. Not all oil-producing countries provide national welfare. You didn't actually think about this. Try again. Do better.