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As a user you are asking for a measurably worse experience. And given context, I suspect you are a developer, not just a user. A release per week is a sign tha

As a user you are asking for a measurably worse experience. And given context, I suspect you are a developer, not just a user. A release per week is a sign that an app has poor quality.

alkonaut 4y ago
> As a user you are asking for a measurably worse experience. Worse than what? A program with a million features is going to have a hundred known bugs at any point. Getting ten fixed every week is better than getting 100 fixed 3 months from now. That's the thing though: as a user (not as a developer, I assure you) I want the million features, and accept the thousand bugs in order to get them. But that also means I want the weekly patches. A desktop app with 1000 features and 1 bug is good quality. As is a desktop app with a million features and the same number of bugs-to-features. You might argue that one should count bugs in the absolute, but that's just moving goalposts. With that bar there simply are no complex high-quality apps! Any useful definition of complex high quality app must be relative. > I suspect you are a developer, not just a user Indeed (this is HN after all).
- kasabali 4y ago
  > A program with a million features is going to have a hundred known bugs at any point. Getting ten fixed every week is better than getting 100 fixed 3 months from now Ideally. In real world though it's more like fix 10, introduce 5 more. So modern software is always in constant beta. I'd rather have them release every 3 months with proper QA process in place so it'd be fix 100, introduce 20 new or something.
akerl_ 4y ago
It seems wild for you to posit what users want as a sweeping generalization, have somebody say ~“that’s not what I want and here’s why”, and then just say full stop that their desires are wrong and don’t count anyway. Maybe your sweeping generalization is just wrong. Users, developers, and distro maintainers are not uniform groups with rigid pre-determined opinions and desires.

As a user you are asking for a measurably worse experience. And given context, I suspect you are a developer, not just a user. A release per week is a sign that an app has poor quality.

alkonaut 4y ago

> As a user you are asking for a measurably worse experience. Worse than what? A program with a million features is going to have a hundred known bugs at any point. Getting ten fixed every week is better than getting 100 fixed 3 months from now. That's the thing though: as a user (not as a developer, I assure you) I want the million features, and accept the thousand bugs in order to get them. But that also means I want the weekly patches. A desktop app with 1000 features and 1 bug is good quality. As is a desktop app with a million features and the same number of bugs-to-features. You might argue that one should count bugs in the absolute, but that's just moving goalposts. With that bar there simply are no complex high-quality apps! Any useful definition of complex high quality app must be relative. > I suspect you are a developer, not just a user Indeed (this is HN after all).

kasabali 4y ago
> A program with a million features is going to have a hundred known bugs at any point. Getting ten fixed every week is better than getting 100 fixed 3 months from now Ideally. In real world though it's more like fix 10, introduce 5 more. So modern software is always in constant beta. I'd rather have them release every 3 months with proper QA process in place so it'd be fix 100, introduce 20 new or something.

akerl_ 4y ago

It seems wild for you to posit what users want as a sweeping generalization, have somebody say ~“that’s not what I want and here’s why”, and then just say full stop that their desires are wrong and don’t count anyway. Maybe your sweeping generalization is just wrong. Users, developers, and distro maintainers are not uniform groups with rigid pre-determined opinions and desires.