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I'll add more: - Fries CPU and GPU on video calls, making it difficult to use other applications or demo when screensharing - Interacts unfavourably with at l

I'll add more: - Fries CPU and GPU on video calls, making it difficult to use other applications or demo when screensharing - Interacts unfavourably with at least some WiFi drivers leading to unidirectional and bidirectional losses of connectivity - Copy and paste randomly break so you can't copy content from Teams or paste anything into it; applies to both text and images - Doesn't honour setting not to automatically restart which makes it hard to kill when it needs to be restarted - Automatic restart means it often restarts before it's cleanly shutdown leading to reoccurrence of the problem you tried to kill it for in the first place, or other random bugs and instabilities - Too slow to start up and load channels: show the cached content immediately - stop blocking on bloody network calls like it's the 1980s and you've never written any code that calls over a network before - Causes system instability on video calls with multiple participants - No feedback on image paste/upload: is it uploading or not? You don't know. Leads to images that you thought hadn't worked just randomly appearing in the middle of typing - not very helpful. Put a placeholder (ideally correctly sized) where the image will go on the client whilst it's uploading and then get out of the way. - Doesn't seem to be possible to resize/rescale images Could think of plenty more but I should do some work. (And, despite all of the above, it's still probably the best of a bad bunch - Hangouts call quality is often terrible, and Zoom is just a complete mess when it comes to anything beyond the basic video calling functionality.)

robertlagrant 4y ago
We have Zoom in the office and the meeting room kit is fantastic. I just need to be in the room, open Zoom on my laptop and click Share Screen and it shares to the screen in the room. Never had such an easy time of it.
FridgeSeal 4y ago
Here's some more: - eats your battery like nothing else. Got charge? Not if teams has anything to do about it. Discord does more, at better quality and doesn't eat that much power. - has some bizarre interaction with the volume slider: clicking it mutes just the teams call, but sliding the volume controls alters the volume level of the whole computer. Why? - cuts off the sides of video, because it defaults to "fit video", so too bad to anyone sitting at the side of the camera, no way to change the setting, so you have to change it by. hand. for. every. video. feed. every. single. call. - insists on continuing to send you notifications for that re-occuring marketing meeting you were in once, 6 months ago, but notifications for the link your teammates posted in the chat of the call you are currently in, are apparently not worthy of delivery. - inexplicably defaults to using non-native notifications (on Mac OS), not sure why they felt the need to BYO awful notification system on an OS that has one built in, but it's awful.
- minusf 4y ago
  > cuts off the sides of video this is the same in skype. i never even knew it's a thing until i right clicked on the video feed. this is some microsoft fetish ux from hell.
  - snarfy 4y ago
    It makes sense. Teams is skype under the hood.
- snarfy 4y ago
  The audio part drives me crazy. Why does it have to re-implement its own volume controls, device settings, and mixer and completely ignore the OS counterparts? On windows if the OS doesn't do what they need they could just walk over (ok drive over) to the windows guy's office and ask for it. I guess they could also send them a message on Teams but then they would never see it.
  - jiggawatts 4y ago
    It's written like a computer game from the 1990s. For unfathomable reasons, it takes "full control" of your audio stack. I want to say.. ha-ha... for performance reasons, but we all know that can't possibly be true. The trick here for everyone being driven mad by Teams randomly overriding system settings is that for each audio device there's a setting miles deep in the legacy control panel called: "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" Untick that, and then Teams won't have the permission to change system-wide settings. In practice, nothing else needs this permission anyway, unless you're doing some sort of low-latency audio capture with professional tools or whatever.
- hooby 4y ago
  - sends you a notification about a meeting starting, with a join button. when you hover your mouse over the join button, the notification disappears. the meeting is nowhere to be found. you have to got to outlook calendar and join the meeting from there - sometimes the same meeting ends up existing twice with the same name, with half the participants in here, the other half back there - when your internet is bad, you can no longer hear the speaker talking, but the video feeds of 5 other participants all run fine - when I join a call with a built-in microphone and a webcam microphone attached, teams pre-selects the webcam microphone, but sends the sound of no microphone at all. I have to go the hidden away settings, change to the built-in microphone and back to the webcam microphone to make it work. - a few versions ago, teams would hammer microsoft servers with multiple authentication requests per second, eating a lot of CPU and bandwidth, but there's no indication of anything going on in the UI - you are still logged in and everything works normally. - powerpoint presentations sometimes work, sometimes all you get to see is a black rectangle - uploading files is extremely buggy, and it's not always clear if it did work or not.
Neil44 4y ago
Don't forget the massive memory use, oh and now there's TWO versions of teams - one for 'work or school' accounts and one for other Microsoft accounts. What a great idea said nobody ever.
- schnulller 4y ago
  upvote for the two different teams, like wtf... also, there is no version that installs in a system directory (bad for deployment), and the deployment version is terrible (it downloads and installs teams every time a user logs in). requires tracking protection to be cut for microsoft websites on linux super buggy and unusable on linux
  - the_gebbeth 4y ago
    It's usable on Linux, I use it all day, every day. I just don't know why the Linux client is so far behind the web client despite being an electron app.
    - trelane 4y ago
      > I just don't know why the Linux client is so far behind the web client despite being an electron app My friend, this Linux user since the 1990s would like a word.

robertlagrant 4y ago

We have Zoom in the office and the meeting room kit is fantastic. I just need to be in the room, open Zoom on my laptop and click Share Screen and it shares to the screen in the room. Never had such an easy time of it.

FridgeSeal 4y ago

Here's some more: - eats your battery like nothing else. Got charge? Not if teams has anything to do about it. Discord does more, at better quality and doesn't eat that much power. - has some bizarre interaction with the volume slider: clicking it mutes just the teams call, but sliding the volume controls alters the volume level of the whole computer. Why? - cuts off the sides of video, because it defaults to "fit video", so too bad to anyone sitting at the side of the camera, no way to change the setting, so you have to change it by. hand. for. every. video. feed. every. single. call. - insists on continuing to send you notifications for that re-occuring marketing meeting you were in once, 6 months ago, but notifications for the link your teammates posted in the chat of the call you are currently in, are apparently not worthy of delivery. - inexplicably defaults to using non-native notifications (on Mac OS), not sure why they felt the need to BYO awful notification system on an OS that has one built in, but it's awful.

minusf 4y ago
> cuts off the sides of video this is the same in skype. i never even knew it's a thing until i right clicked on the video feed. this is some microsoft fetish ux from hell.
- snarfy 4y ago
  It makes sense. Teams is skype under the hood.
snarfy 4y ago
The audio part drives me crazy. Why does it have to re-implement its own volume controls, device settings, and mixer and completely ignore the OS counterparts? On windows if the OS doesn't do what they need they could just walk over (ok drive over) to the windows guy's office and ask for it. I guess they could also send them a message on Teams but then they would never see it.
- jiggawatts 4y ago
  It's written like a computer game from the 1990s. For unfathomable reasons, it takes "full control" of your audio stack. I want to say.. ha-ha... for performance reasons, but we all know that can't possibly be true. The trick here for everyone being driven mad by Teams randomly overriding system settings is that for each audio device there's a setting miles deep in the legacy control panel called: "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" Untick that, and then Teams won't have the permission to change system-wide settings. In practice, nothing else needs this permission anyway, unless you're doing some sort of low-latency audio capture with professional tools or whatever.
hooby 4y ago
- sends you a notification about a meeting starting, with a join button. when you hover your mouse over the join button, the notification disappears. the meeting is nowhere to be found. you have to got to outlook calendar and join the meeting from there - sometimes the same meeting ends up existing twice with the same name, with half the participants in here, the other half back there - when your internet is bad, you can no longer hear the speaker talking, but the video feeds of 5 other participants all run fine - when I join a call with a built-in microphone and a webcam microphone attached, teams pre-selects the webcam microphone, but sends the sound of no microphone at all. I have to go the hidden away settings, change to the built-in microphone and back to the webcam microphone to make it work. - a few versions ago, teams would hammer microsoft servers with multiple authentication requests per second, eating a lot of CPU and bandwidth, but there's no indication of anything going on in the UI - you are still logged in and everything works normally. - powerpoint presentations sometimes work, sometimes all you get to see is a black rectangle - uploading files is extremely buggy, and it's not always clear if it did work or not.

Neil44 4y ago

Don't forget the massive memory use, oh and now there's TWO versions of teams - one for 'work or school' accounts and one for other Microsoft accounts. What a great idea said nobody ever.

schnulller 4y ago
upvote for the two different teams, like wtf... also, there is no version that installs in a system directory (bad for deployment), and the deployment version is terrible (it downloads and installs teams every time a user logs in). requires tracking protection to be cut for microsoft websites on linux super buggy and unusable on linux
- the_gebbeth 4y ago
  It's usable on Linux, I use it all day, every day. I just don't know why the Linux client is so far behind the web client despite being an electron app.
  - trelane 4y ago
    > I just don't know why the Linux client is so far behind the web client despite being an electron app My friend, this Linux user since the 1990s would like a word.