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What work? That seems very comparable to any moderately nice webcam: Install software once, then forget about it. The "setup" for something like skype is then j

What work? That seems very comparable to any moderately nice webcam: Install software once, then forget about it. The "setup" for something like skype is then just selecting the cam from a drop down menu. An argument I could see is having to get out the camera, put it onto a tripod, connecting power, ... etc.. Though that is only an issue if you cannot just leave everything set up.

eternityforest 4y ago
People who do stuff that requires tinkering always seem to be spending ten minutes here and there at unpredictable times fixing stuff. This seems like it should work very well. But... it's hard to imagine there not being some issues. If nothing else, it will be an issue if you need to quickly do a clean reinstall, every customized thing is an extra few minutes of work, wheras a hack-less plug and play system is almost trivial to remake from scratch. This could be amazing for a specialized application like a photo booth, but I'm not so sure about just regular desktop use.
dewey 4y ago
> Install software once, then forget about it. Are you new to Linux? As it appears to be necessary: \s, it was a lighthearted statement about how software is almost never "forget about it" and breaks on updates in unexpected ways.
- ekianjo 4y ago
  No. Are you?
- _joel 4y ago
  It handled via dkms so it's rebuilt automatically everytime you update your kernel. Then it's loaded on boot, no insmod/modprobe needed. I'm not sure what the issue is.
  - noselasd 4y ago
    Maybe this particular dkms doesn't have the issue, but the ones I've used breaks when the internal kernal APIs changes and the external module isn't updated yet. Happens frequently enough to be irritating.
    - _joel 4y ago
      I've never found that with dkms provided by the official repos, which this is. Also I've got personal experience maintaining a fleet of these for video ingesters, using that exact dkms packaged module.
- rroot 4y ago
  Light hearted statements on HN is like walking through a minefield. I learned the same way as you. I can sympathize.
  - swores 4y ago
    Because the HN commenting guidelines contain paragraphs such as these, many users including myself feel comments like that deserve downvotes, because we think the site will be better with less of them: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. > Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies, generic tangents, and internet tropes. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. But... it's just downvotes! I'm sending a polite signal, losing a bit of a digital karma score shouldn't be painful :) Please downvote me any time I comment something you think shouldn't be commented on HN! (I just pasted the bit most relevent from the guidelines, but anyone who's not seen them should have a read of the whole lot - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html )

eternityforest 4y ago

People who do stuff that requires tinkering always seem to be spending ten minutes here and there at unpredictable times fixing stuff. This seems like it should work very well. But... it's hard to imagine there not being some issues. If nothing else, it will be an issue if you need to quickly do a clean reinstall, every customized thing is an extra few minutes of work, wheras a hack-less plug and play system is almost trivial to remake from scratch. This could be amazing for a specialized application like a photo booth, but I'm not so sure about just regular desktop use.

dewey 4y ago

> Install software once, then forget about it. Are you new to Linux? As it appears to be necessary: \s, it was a lighthearted statement about how software is almost never "forget about it" and breaks on updates in unexpected ways.

ekianjo 4y ago
No. Are you?
_joel 4y ago
It handled via dkms so it's rebuilt automatically everytime you update your kernel. Then it's loaded on boot, no insmod/modprobe needed. I'm not sure what the issue is.
- noselasd 4y ago
  Maybe this particular dkms doesn't have the issue, but the ones I've used breaks when the internal kernal APIs changes and the external module isn't updated yet. Happens frequently enough to be irritating.
  - _joel 4y ago
    I've never found that with dkms provided by the official repos, which this is. Also I've got personal experience maintaining a fleet of these for video ingesters, using that exact dkms packaged module.
rroot 4y ago
Light hearted statements on HN is like walking through a minefield. I learned the same way as you. I can sympathize.
- swores 4y ago
  Because the HN commenting guidelines contain paragraphs such as these, many users including myself feel comments like that deserve downvotes, because we think the site will be better with less of them: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. > When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. > Eschew flamebait. Avoid unrelated controversies, generic tangents, and internet tropes. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. But... it's just downvotes! I'm sending a polite signal, losing a bit of a digital karma score shouldn't be painful :) Please downvote me any time I comment something you think shouldn't be commented on HN! (I just pasted the bit most relevent from the guidelines, but anyone who's not seen them should have a read of the whole lot - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html )