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I dont like how the world seems to be tending to be people stay at home, dont do anything, and be as efficient as possible

yeuxardents 4y ago
The movie 'Surrogates' comes to mind
londons_explore 4y ago
You know what would be even more efficient.... Fewer people...
- Bostonian 4y ago
  No, that's not what efficient means. Most people are happy to be alive, and their existence is a good thing. Your comment is an example of misanthropy sometimes found in climate activism and environmentalism more broadly.
- 9530jh9054ven 4y ago
  Perhaps but I doubt anyone here is going to publicly admit support for mass murder on the scale of hundreds of millions as a means of dropping Co2 output. At least not without enough hatred and resentment drummed up for whatever arbitrary label of people that's unfortunate enough to be the sacrificial goat.
  - ZeroGravitas 4y ago
    This seems to be regularly suggested here. And the general target seems to be the poor, because then you can tell people they need to kill the poor or become poor themselves. So it's a simple case of them or us. Literally the same argument that Hitler made: > The Nazi Generalplan Ost policy ('Master Plan for the East') was based on its tenets. It stipulated that Germany required a Lebensraum necessary for its survival and that most of the indigenous populations of Central and Eastern Europe would have to be removed permanently (either through mass deportation to Siberia, extermination, or enslavement) including Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Czech and other Slavic nations considered non-Aryan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum
- benj111 4y ago
  Yes. But we've already reached peak child. So once the current glut passes breeding age the population should steady and start to fall.
- yieldcrv 4y ago
  Hephaestus over here
- mlindner 4y ago
  Actually the massive efficiency of the current world depends on lots of people. Reducing populations will result in less efficiency. Instead we should be trying to grow populations as we're headed for a demographic collapse requiring extremely high taxation of the young to care for the old. It's a slow moving disaster.
- lm28469 4y ago
  Nah just put them in a pod, matrix style, as efficient as it gets, no more physical strain, no more "what am I going to cook tonight", the transhumanist dream
Someone 4y ago
Where do you conclude “stay at home” and “don’t do anything” from?

yeuxardents 4y ago

The movie 'Surrogates' comes to mind

londons_explore 4y ago

You know what would be even more efficient.... Fewer people...

Bostonian 4y ago
No, that's not what efficient means. Most people are happy to be alive, and their existence is a good thing. Your comment is an example of misanthropy sometimes found in climate activism and environmentalism more broadly.
9530jh9054ven 4y ago
Perhaps but I doubt anyone here is going to publicly admit support for mass murder on the scale of hundreds of millions as a means of dropping Co2 output. At least not without enough hatred and resentment drummed up for whatever arbitrary label of people that's unfortunate enough to be the sacrificial goat.
- ZeroGravitas 4y ago
  This seems to be regularly suggested here. And the general target seems to be the poor, because then you can tell people they need to kill the poor or become poor themselves. So it's a simple case of them or us. Literally the same argument that Hitler made: > The Nazi Generalplan Ost policy ('Master Plan for the East') was based on its tenets. It stipulated that Germany required a Lebensraum necessary for its survival and that most of the indigenous populations of Central and Eastern Europe would have to be removed permanently (either through mass deportation to Siberia, extermination, or enslavement) including Polish, Ukrainian, Russian, Czech and other Slavic nations considered non-Aryan. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum
benj111 4y ago
Yes. But we've already reached peak child. So once the current glut passes breeding age the population should steady and start to fall.
yieldcrv 4y ago
Hephaestus over here
mlindner 4y ago
Actually the massive efficiency of the current world depends on lots of people. Reducing populations will result in less efficiency. Instead we should be trying to grow populations as we're headed for a demographic collapse requiring extremely high taxation of the young to care for the old. It's a slow moving disaster.
lm28469 4y ago
Nah just put them in a pod, matrix style, as efficient as it gets, no more physical strain, no more "what am I going to cook tonight", the transhumanist dream

Someone 4y ago

Where do you conclude “stay at home” and “don’t do anything” from?