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The thing that amuses me as an Australian is the subtitles when a pom, Irish, or Scot is talking. I've not seen it with Australians, but I wouldn't be surprised

RajT88 4y ago
Speaking of subtitles. My god, on the UK Show DVD releases, the subtitles tracks made it a whole new show.
unwind 4y ago
I had to read your comment twice, I first mis-read "pom" as being a badly kermed [1] "porn", which made the entire thing hard to parse. Then I realized I wasn't sure what "pom" means (not a native speaker, and from the northern hemisphere) either, so had to look it up [2]: "(Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, mildly derogatory slang) An Englishman; a Briton; a person of British descent". It's more of the rhyming slang, didn't know that was a thing for Australian slang. [1]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/keming https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/keming [2]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pom#Noun https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pom#Noun
- ungamedplayer 4y ago
  Mild derogatory slang in Australian english is not derogatory at all from the local perspective.
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- foobar1962 4y ago
  > Mild derogatory slang in Australian english is not derogatory at all from the local perspective. Indeed. Derogatory would be "Pommie bastard."
  - oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
    And affectionate slang would be "pommie <c-word>" - or, at least, that's the impression I get as a pom! :)
    - foobar1962 4y ago
      As an Aussie, that c-word thing isn't really a thing in my experience, at least not in the urban environments I inhabit. (It may be a thing in the bush.) We tend to be "direct" and generally have no fear of speaking truth to authority: the whole "OMG we can't indict the former President" issue with Trump is confusing down here: politicians and people in positions of responsibility are held to a HIGHER standard of behaviour, not lower, and they'd be the first to be tapped on the shoulder (or we expect them to be, and would be asking why they haven't been yet).
      - Handytinge 4y ago
        Not sure where you're from, but in my Australian suburban jungle, cunt is a pretty common term. You don't say it if you're over at mums for lunch on a Sunday, but hanging out with the boys? For sure. "What's with this cunt?" etc is common venacular.
throwaway742 4y ago
Reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0m4rcx0of4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0m4rcx0of4
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jedberg 4y ago
Here in America they will often subtitle Asians speaking English. As someone with an Asian wife and kids I can never figure out if I should laugh or cry or both.
- RajT88 4y ago
  I have seen thick southern/country accepts get subtitled on reality shows, FWIW.
- the_lonely_road 4y ago
  For those coming into this discussion late with no personal exposure to American television, the OP's use of "often" is just them burning some steam off. This is not a serious thing that happens in any kind of high percentage of content. I can't think of any content where it does happen and would be surprised if any examples created in the last 20 years could be found.
  - jedberg 4y ago
    It just happened with a movie in the last year. An Asian person speaking English with a Mandarin accent was subtitled. If I could remember the name I'd link it to you. Maybe you just aren't watching content with diverse casts that speak with accents.
    - the_lonely_road 4y ago
      Convenient that you don't have any examples of your point whatsoever and just lean into a thinly veiled insult to try and cover that up. The point stands, this content is by no means ubiquitous or even remotely close to frequent enough for your use of 'often' to be correct with even a charitable interpretation.
denton-scratch 4y ago
The subtitles made me roar with laughter when I first saw Jimmy Cliff's The Harder They Come. The whole movie is in Jamaican patois, so there's some logic in translating it; but most urbanites here have plenty of exposure to Jamaican patois, so it's a bit like having English subtitles on an English movie.
alistairSH 4y ago
I haven’t noticed many subtitles on TV in the US. But I remember watching Trainspotting with a college flat mate. He had no idea what was being said; as a Scot, I had to translate for him. Among my friends and family, only the really thick UK accents aren’t understood very well. Glaswegian, Scouse, etc. The more common (on TV) RP, upper class Edinburg, and Highland accents are mostly fine.

RajT88 4y ago

Speaking of subtitles. My god, on the UK Show DVD releases, the subtitles tracks made it a whole new show.

unwind 4y ago

I had to read your comment twice, I first mis-read "pom" as being a badly kermed [1] "porn", which made the entire thing hard to parse. Then I realized I wasn't sure what "pom" means (not a native speaker, and from the northern hemisphere) either, so had to look it up [2]: "(Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, mildly derogatory slang) An Englishman; a Briton; a person of British descent". It's more of the rhyming slang, didn't know that was a thing for Australian slang. [1]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/keming https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/keming [2]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pom#Noun https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pom#Noun

ungamedplayer 4y ago
Mild derogatory slang in Australian english is not derogatory at all from the local perspective.
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foobar1962 4y ago
> Mild derogatory slang in Australian english is not derogatory at all from the local perspective. Indeed. Derogatory would be "Pommie bastard."
- oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
  And affectionate slang would be "pommie <c-word>" - or, at least, that's the impression I get as a pom! :)
  - foobar1962 4y ago
    As an Aussie, that c-word thing isn't really a thing in my experience, at least not in the urban environments I inhabit. (It may be a thing in the bush.) We tend to be "direct" and generally have no fear of speaking truth to authority: the whole "OMG we can't indict the former President" issue with Trump is confusing down here: politicians and people in positions of responsibility are held to a HIGHER standard of behaviour, not lower, and they'd be the first to be tapped on the shoulder (or we expect them to be, and would be asking why they haven't been yet).
    - Handytinge 4y ago
      Not sure where you're from, but in my Australian suburban jungle, cunt is a pretty common term. You don't say it if you're over at mums for lunch on a Sunday, but hanging out with the boys? For sure. "What's with this cunt?" etc is common venacular.

throwaway742 4y ago

Reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0m4rcx0of4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0m4rcx0of4

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jedberg 4y ago

Here in America they will often subtitle Asians speaking English. As someone with an Asian wife and kids I can never figure out if I should laugh or cry or both.

RajT88 4y ago
I have seen thick southern/country accepts get subtitled on reality shows, FWIW.
the_lonely_road 4y ago
For those coming into this discussion late with no personal exposure to American television, the OP's use of "often" is just them burning some steam off. This is not a serious thing that happens in any kind of high percentage of content. I can't think of any content where it does happen and would be surprised if any examples created in the last 20 years could be found.
- jedberg 4y ago
  It just happened with a movie in the last year. An Asian person speaking English with a Mandarin accent was subtitled. If I could remember the name I'd link it to you. Maybe you just aren't watching content with diverse casts that speak with accents.
  - the_lonely_road 4y ago
    Convenient that you don't have any examples of your point whatsoever and just lean into a thinly veiled insult to try and cover that up. The point stands, this content is by no means ubiquitous or even remotely close to frequent enough for your use of 'often' to be correct with even a charitable interpretation.

denton-scratch 4y ago

The subtitles made me roar with laughter when I first saw Jimmy Cliff's The Harder They Come. The whole movie is in Jamaican patois, so there's some logic in translating it; but most urbanites here have plenty of exposure to Jamaican patois, so it's a bit like having English subtitles on an English movie.

alistairSH 4y ago

I haven’t noticed many subtitles on TV in the US. But I remember watching Trainspotting with a college flat mate. He had no idea what was being said; as a Scot, I had to translate for him. Among my friends and family, only the really thick UK accents aren’t understood very well. Glaswegian, Scouse, etc. The more common (on TV) RP, upper class Edinburg, and Highland accents are mostly fine.