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Excuse me, but this is exactly the naive nonsense I mean. > And these goals are: "Return of all Ukrainian territory, comprehensive multilateral security guaran
by sazz 4y ago
Excuse me, but this is exactly the naive nonsense I mean.
> And these goals are: "Return of all Ukrainian territory, comprehensive multilateral security guarantees, reparations and war crimes indictments."
Oh, so the goal will be for Ukraine to defeat Russia to the last, Selensky to accept the surrender at the Red Square, and Putin answers to Hague?
The only way to achieve this is to go to Moscow and force the government out of office.
Sounds easy! Just a few more bloody battles in St. Petersburg and Moscow because Putin is not thinking of giving up voluntarily and we are back home by tea time?
Or should the war - as long as it lasts - go on for the next 30 years?
So what is the military strategy now? Throw the Russian forces out of Ukraine and then fight their way to Moscow?
Write Ukraine a blank cheque, blindly provide them with weapons and let them do as they please? And of course, since the Ukrainian army are the good guys and the Russians are the bad guys - did Selensky guaranteed never to take revenge on the Russian population? Is he even capable of giving such a guarantee?
Because war crimes are obviously committed - exclusively - only by the Russians? This is war. So do really think only bad guys do war crimes?
What about reparations then? Will Germany also get a small war profit - after all, the German population suffered from the non-existent economic war and spent a lot of money on artillery?
- amai 4y ago> Oh, so the goal will be for Ukraine to defeat Russia to the last, Selensky to accept the surrender at the Red Square, and Putin answers to Hague? Look at the history of Vietnam war and Afghanistan war. In both cases the nuclear power lost against a "smaller" enemy. But did the Vietnam army accept surrender at the white house? Did the Afghanistan army accept the surrender at the red square? No! In both cases the US army and the USSR army simply went home and the war was over. The same will happen in Ukraine.
- megous 4y agoIf your public demands will be low key, what can you sacrifice during negotiations to end the war? Only things that will really hurt. You reading too much into these proclamations as if they are some absolutes. Ukraine will just try to get back as much as possible, as any country would. And all these "we will support Ukraine until the end" proclamations also can't be taken literally. If allies would say, "ok, we will support Ukraine for next 4 months, if it's not over by then, the support will stop" that would just be a signal to the enemy to slow burn the war for 4 months while preparing for offensive in 4 months. I don't know what you're really expecting to be said publicly... > German population suffered from the non-existent economic war How can you suffer from something that does not exist?