Thanks for the insightful comments. I think Ukraine is certainly in a civil war based on regional lines and Russia is in a proxy civil war based on the idea of

Thanks for the insightful comments. I think Ukraine is certainly in a civil war based on regional lines and Russia is in a proxy civil war based on the idea of what the future Russia should look like. It's a mess and no side can claim the moral high ground. Land wars in Asia are best avoided!