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I wonder if the conclusion of these sort of laws is just a segregated internet

zeruch 4y ago
It's already here. (Web3 will exacerbate it). Seriously, in terms of a 'segregated' network, we already see giant walled gardens and their pseudo-kin everywhere, and web3's sole focus seems on monetization of anything online, which won't help that one iota.
throwaway5920 4y ago
It is inevitable. The only question is to what ends. EU is very focused on a maximalist vision of privacy. US is focused on security with a touch of woke censorship. China couldn’t care less about privacy but is obsessed about keeping out foreign influence and heavily censoring cultural and political content.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  Hopefully European VPN providers can capitalize on this. Even if it is just a tiny boost to the local economy, always nice when a populace is rewarded selecting reasonable politicians.
- spookie 4y ago
  I wonder who is in the right here
- dmitriid 4y ago
  > US is focused on security with a touch of woke censorship. The US couldn't care less about security. Their approach is "we buy and sell your data and if you are in the US the government can use any and all data at any point for any reason". European view isn't maximalist in the least. Europe, thankfully, still still remembers lessons learned from data exposure to Stasi police.
npteljes 4y ago
Segregation is the easiest path here, similar to how centralization is simpler than a peer-to-peer system. But it's just an incentive among the many, so there's no reason to reach that extreme. For example with GDPR, some American news sites just flat-out deny serving the pages to European IPs, but not all of them - many show a different presentation (like NPR), or otherwise tailor the website to make it compliant.
ocdtrekkie 4y ago
People were naive to think the Internet would exist outside sovereign borders. The law is catching up to regulating what is, ultimately, just another communications medium. Just like international phone calls, don't expect the Internet to solely operate in a border, but do expect nations to care what traverses the boundaries.

It's already here. (Web3 will exacerbate it). Seriously, in terms of a 'segregated' network, we already see giant walled gardens and their pseudo-kin everywhere, and web3's sole focus seems on monetization of anything online, which won't help that one iota.

throwaway5920 4y ago

It is inevitable. The only question is to what ends. EU is very focused on a maximalist vision of privacy. US is focused on security with a touch of woke censorship. China couldn’t care less about privacy but is obsessed about keeping out foreign influence and heavily censoring cultural and political content.

bee_rider 4y ago
Hopefully European VPN providers can capitalize on this. Even if it is just a tiny boost to the local economy, always nice when a populace is rewarded selecting reasonable politicians.
spookie 4y ago
I wonder who is in the right here
dmitriid 4y ago
> US is focused on security with a touch of woke censorship. The US couldn't care less about security. Their approach is "we buy and sell your data and if you are in the US the government can use any and all data at any point for any reason". European view isn't maximalist in the least. Europe, thankfully, still still remembers lessons learned from data exposure to Stasi police.

npteljes 4y ago

Segregation is the easiest path here, similar to how centralization is simpler than a peer-to-peer system. But it's just an incentive among the many, so there's no reason to reach that extreme. For example with GDPR, some American news sites just flat-out deny serving the pages to European IPs, but not all of them - many show a different presentation (like NPR), or otherwise tailor the website to make it compliant.

ocdtrekkie 4y ago

People were naive to think the Internet would exist outside sovereign borders. The law is catching up to regulating what is, ultimately, just another communications medium. Just like international phone calls, don't expect the Internet to solely operate in a border, but do expect nations to care what traverses the boundaries.