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Can you buy illegal car parts (sold by a European entity, for example) which advertise themselves as road legal but aren't?

by V__ 4y ago

Nextgrid 4y ago
Does Google Analytics advertise itself as legal? As far as I know they never explicitly say that - they give you all the details you need to make the determination yourself, but never explicitly give you the answer.
- V__ 4y ago
  I don't think that distinction legally matters (in Europe). Every product or service in Europe has to "ensure that your products meet the EU requirements to protect human and animal health, the environment and consumers rights." [1]. This means every consumer buying a product in Europe (from a European entitiy) can assume that the product or service is legal. [1] https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-goods-services/selling-products-eu/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-...
  - bloppe 4y ago
    There's nothing wrong with Google allowing a website to use GA. The problem only arises if that website then serves end-user traffic to EU citizens. Many European websites may choose to only use GA if the traffic is coming from outside the EU.
    - V__ 4y ago
      I'm not sure if that's true. I might be mistaken, but I think European companies have to abide by GDPR even for non-eu personal data. But let's say it is, then still Google should make that very clear or even adapt its script to prevent a connection if an EU ip is recognized.
hef19898 4y ago
You just described absignificant portion of the EU based car tuner scene.
markstos 4y ago
They don’t have to advertise that they are legal for road use to sell them to people intending to use them on the road. Another example: a number of e-bike suppliers sell parts that are explicitly described as not road-legal. People may buy them precisely because they are advertised as being faster or more powerful than what is sold in retail stores.
- V__ 4y ago
  > a number of e-bike suppliers sell parts that are explicitly described as not road-legal. That's fair play. The user knows exactly that he is breaking the law, and he can be punished. Google advertises Analytics for online-shops, websites etc. Cases in which the product can't be used legally and the user doesn't know it.
  - spookie 4y ago
    It's not the end user, it's the website owner. And yes, you are responsible for your website.
    - V__ 4y ago
      The website owner is the end user of Analytics, but even if not: Why should the distinction matter? For example: I'm also responsible for my car but if it's (by design) not road legal, why should I be responsible to be sure of that and not the carmaker?
      - spookie 4y ago
        Idk where you live, but I'm responsible for making sure that my car stays road legal. And I would be responsible to make sure it was from the start if I had built it myself wink wink
        V__ 4y ago
        Of course, but if you bought a brand new vehicle and it wasn't road legal by design you wouldn't be.

Can you buy illegal car parts (sold by a European entity, for example) which advertise themselves as road legal but aren't?

by V__ 4y ago

Can you buy illegal car parts (sold by a European entity, for example) which advertise themselves as road legal but aren't?

Nextgrid 4y ago

Does Google Analytics advertise itself as legal? As far as I know they never explicitly say that - they give you all the details you need to make the determination yourself, but never explicitly give you the answer.

V__ 4y ago
I don't think that distinction legally matters (in Europe). Every product or service in Europe has to "ensure that your products meet the EU requirements to protect human and animal health, the environment and consumers rights." [1]. This means every consumer buying a product in Europe (from a European entitiy) can assume that the product or service is legal. [1] https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-goods-services/selling-products-eu/index_en.htm https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/selling-in-eu/selling-...
- bloppe 4y ago
  There's nothing wrong with Google allowing a website to use GA. The problem only arises if that website then serves end-user traffic to EU citizens. Many European websites may choose to only use GA if the traffic is coming from outside the EU.
  - V__ 4y ago
    I'm not sure if that's true. I might be mistaken, but I think European companies have to abide by GDPR even for non-eu personal data. But let's say it is, then still Google should make that very clear or even adapt its script to prevent a connection if an EU ip is recognized.

hef19898 4y ago

You just described absignificant portion of the EU based car tuner scene.

markstos 4y ago

They don’t have to advertise that they are legal for road use to sell them to people intending to use them on the road. Another example: a number of e-bike suppliers sell parts that are explicitly described as not road-legal. People may buy them precisely because they are advertised as being faster or more powerful than what is sold in retail stores.

V__ 4y ago
> a number of e-bike suppliers sell parts that are explicitly described as not road-legal. That's fair play. The user knows exactly that he is breaking the law, and he can be punished. Google advertises Analytics for online-shops, websites etc. Cases in which the product can't be used legally and the user doesn't know it.
- spookie 4y ago
  It's not the end user, it's the website owner. And yes, you are responsible for your website.
  - V__ 4y ago
    The website owner is the end user of Analytics, but even if not: Why should the distinction matter? For example: I'm also responsible for my car but if it's (by design) not road legal, why should I be responsible to be sure of that and not the carmaker?
    - spookie 4y ago
      Idk where you live, but I'm responsible for making sure that my car stays road legal. And I would be responsible to make sure it was from the start if I had built it myself wink wink
      - V__ 4y ago
        Of course, but if you bought a brand new vehicle and it wasn't road legal by design you wouldn't be.