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> The problem with that is that Russia is also heavily encouraging citizens to action in other countries (such as attacking humanitarian aid to Ukraine or Ukrai

> The problem with that is that Russia is also heavily encouraging citizens to action in other countries (such as attacking humanitarian aid to Ukraine or Ukrainan refuges). Or regular spies. This. We already have Putin's pundits demanding thins like the Russian diaspora to increase waste of gas in Germany and the like to contribute to keeping Germany dependant on Russian gas. We have elements of the Russian diaspora organizing protests against support for Ukraine, and in support of Russia's invasion. We have Russian tourists flashing Russia's fascist symbols and messages of support of Russia's invasion, oppression, and genocide campaign. And now these guys are supposed to want out? These sudden refugees are no better than those Russians who suddenly felt compelled to flee south Ukraine, specially Crimea, when Russia's war effort started to crumble.

hef19898 4y ago
Yeah, I hate it too if people flee from war or use yheir right of free speech and assembly in democratic countries. How dare they!
- arinlen 4y ago
  > Yeah, I hate it too if people flee from war or use yheir right of free speech and assembly in democratic countries. How dare they! You seem confused. Tell me which war are these invasion- and genocide-supporting russians fleeing from. Or are we supposed to believe that to Russia's fascist militants a war is only awesome if it's everyone else doing the fighting?
  - hef19898 4y ago
    Didn't we talk about Russians leaving the Crimea? That would make it rather obvious which war they are fleeing from. And yes, as long as Russians in, e.g., Germany are protesting in support of the war, and follow the rules concerning demonstrations, they should be allowed to do so.
    - arinlen 4y ago
      > Didn't we talk about Russians leaving the Crimea? That would make it rather obvious which war they are fleeing from. Russian colonists in Ukraine didn't fled war in Crimea. They started leaving occupied ukraine territories because the war they are and were supporting enthusiastically suddenly stopped going in their favour.

hef19898 4y ago

Yeah, I hate it too if people flee from war or use yheir right of free speech and assembly in democratic countries. How dare they!

arinlen 4y ago
> Yeah, I hate it too if people flee from war or use yheir right of free speech and assembly in democratic countries. How dare they! You seem confused. Tell me which war are these invasion- and genocide-supporting russians fleeing from. Or are we supposed to believe that to Russia's fascist militants a war is only awesome if it's everyone else doing the fighting?
- hef19898 4y ago
  Didn't we talk about Russians leaving the Crimea? That would make it rather obvious which war they are fleeing from. And yes, as long as Russians in, e.g., Germany are protesting in support of the war, and follow the rules concerning demonstrations, they should be allowed to do so.
  - arinlen 4y ago
    > Didn't we talk about Russians leaving the Crimea? That would make it rather obvious which war they are fleeing from. Russian colonists in Ukraine didn't fled war in Crimea. They started leaving occupied ukraine territories because the war they are and were supporting enthusiastically suddenly stopped going in their favour.