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Empathy is anti-capitalist. I think the executive getting rid of their usual fake friendly corporate talk, reflecting the degree how bad their bottom line is h

Empathy is anti-capitalist. I think the executive getting rid of their usual fake friendly corporate talk, reflecting the degree how bad their bottom line is hurt.

11101010001100 4y ago
Loyalty is anti-capitalist.
- karmasimida 4y ago
  As software engineers, I don't think this industry value loyalty in the past decade. Job hopping is the norm and is encouraged essentially by the market. Nothing is wrong doing it, we are following the money as we should. Just neither empathy or loyalty is relevant to me, not reliable both ways.
- nemo44x 4y ago
  Pretty much, yeah. The entire idea of capitalism was completely different from previous systems like feudalism. There you were loyal to a lordship and did what was needed and they provided for you. You consumed in the outputs and this is largely how you were compensated. The idea of capitalism is that you trade your labor/expertise/skills for a wage. You don’t own the means of production and you don’t own the outputs of them. Your labor is sold on the market and you are free to bargain and negotiate and step away. So yea, there’s no reason at all to be loyal. It’s a beautiful system that way. It’s liberty and freedom to do as you choose. To decide if you value personal time or working for money.
rosywoozlechan 4y ago
Right, I wasn't suggesting fake friendliness, just like something better than making generalizations that bring up the spector of hidden bad people working at the company and nobody knows whose head is going to roll. It creates uncertainty, fear and just general demoralization in the ranks if you ask me.
- spacemadness 4y ago
  Your take is entirely reasonable. The lack of empathy often comes from the well off who have never had to struggle and can’t conceptualize what that even means.
- pm90 4y ago
  Its sort of lazy thinking, so of course a lot of people will come to the same conclusion. I mean, sure there might be people not giving their best. But most people want to do work, want their work to be meaningful, and will generally do the right thing if guided correctly. The number of "slackers" who try to get by with no/0 effort is small, no way it could be large enough to meaningfully affect the bottomline.

Empathy is anti-capitalist. I think the executive getting rid of their usual fake friendly corporate talk, reflecting the degree how bad their bottom line is hurt.

11101010001100 4y ago

Loyalty is anti-capitalist.

karmasimida 4y ago
As software engineers, I don't think this industry value loyalty in the past decade. Job hopping is the norm and is encouraged essentially by the market. Nothing is wrong doing it, we are following the money as we should. Just neither empathy or loyalty is relevant to me, not reliable both ways.
nemo44x 4y ago
Pretty much, yeah. The entire idea of capitalism was completely different from previous systems like feudalism. There you were loyal to a lordship and did what was needed and they provided for you. You consumed in the outputs and this is largely how you were compensated. The idea of capitalism is that you trade your labor/expertise/skills for a wage. You don’t own the means of production and you don’t own the outputs of them. Your labor is sold on the market and you are free to bargain and negotiate and step away. So yea, there’s no reason at all to be loyal. It’s a beautiful system that way. It’s liberty and freedom to do as you choose. To decide if you value personal time or working for money.

rosywoozlechan 4y ago

Right, I wasn't suggesting fake friendliness, just like something better than making generalizations that bring up the spector of hidden bad people working at the company and nobody knows whose head is going to roll. It creates uncertainty, fear and just general demoralization in the ranks if you ask me.

spacemadness 4y ago
Your take is entirely reasonable. The lack of empathy often comes from the well off who have never had to struggle and can’t conceptualize what that even means.
pm90 4y ago
Its sort of lazy thinking, so of course a lot of people will come to the same conclusion. I mean, sure there might be people not giving their best. But most people want to do work, want their work to be meaningful, and will generally do the right thing if guided correctly. The number of "slackers" who try to get by with no/0 effort is small, no way it could be large enough to meaningfully affect the bottomline.