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> This is why those visa restrictions for russian citizens are counterproductive. There is already a wealth of reports of Russian tourists being enthusiastical

> This is why those visa restrictions for russian citizens are counterproductive. There is already a wealth of reports of Russian tourists being enthusiastically militant about Russia's invasion of Ukraine to the point of assaulting people who bear any relationship with the country or show any semblance of support and even vandalizing their tourist destinations with propaganda supporting Russia's assault. If these prospective political refugees exist, in the very least they should actually stand up against their country's murderous and self-destructive attack on Ukraine. Until then, let them reap what they sow.

logical_ferry 4y ago
This. Why should the West act as a safety valve for Russian dissidents? It's their society, they've made it the way it is, it's not like Putin created the modern Russian society. Putin is just an amalgam of forces.
- hef19898 4y ago
  Yeah, why would we host dissidents from countries we almost at war with? Good for all of us the UK didn' host a buch of dissidents and governments in exile during WW2... Oh, wait, they did!
  - arinlen 4y ago
    > Yeah, why would we host dissidents from countries we almost at war with? Don't confuse chickenhawks with dissidents.
  - logical_ferry 4y ago
    Oh UK did it 80 years ago? Well then Ivan, come right in. And bring everybody who is war-averse with you, we wouldn't want any harm coming upon them, would we? Feel free to organize yourself any way you see fit and if you don't like how we made your morning toast - just cry "Russophobia". Just kidding. https://9gag.com/gag/amAN4v2 https://9gag.com/gag/amAN4v2
    - hef19898 4y ago
      That joke is such poor taste, man, seriously, what's wrong with you? Do you really consider young draftees dying in a pointless war funny???
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ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> If these prospective political refugees exist, in the very least they should actually stand up against their country The ones that stood up are spending 15 years in a jail system known for torture and rape of men > There is already a wealth of reports of Russian tourists being enthusiastically militant about Russia's invasion So jail them, fine them for very large amounts, deport them back naked. Force them to lick dirt off the streets, whatever. Can our police not manage some fat asshole drawing a Z with a crayon?
- arinlen 4y ago
  > The ones that stood up are spending 15 years in a jail system known for torture and rape of men Aren't the russian armed forces are also known for torturing and raping their own conscripts and soldiers? With reports from captured soldiers on how russian officers are systematically killing wounded soldiers?

logical_ferry 4y ago

This. Why should the West act as a safety valve for Russian dissidents? It's their society, they've made it the way it is, it's not like Putin created the modern Russian society. Putin is just an amalgam of forces.

hef19898 4y ago
Yeah, why would we host dissidents from countries we almost at war with? Good for all of us the UK didn' host a buch of dissidents and governments in exile during WW2... Oh, wait, they did!
- arinlen 4y ago
  > Yeah, why would we host dissidents from countries we almost at war with? Don't confuse chickenhawks with dissidents.
- logical_ferry 4y ago
  Oh UK did it 80 years ago? Well then Ivan, come right in. And bring everybody who is war-averse with you, we wouldn't want any harm coming upon them, would we? Feel free to organize yourself any way you see fit and if you don't like how we made your morning toast - just cry "Russophobia". Just kidding. https://9gag.com/gag/amAN4v2 https://9gag.com/gag/amAN4v2
  - hef19898 4y ago
    That joke is such poor taste, man, seriously, what's wrong with you? Do you really consider young draftees dying in a pointless war funny???
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ClumsyPilot 4y ago

> If these prospective political refugees exist, in the very least they should actually stand up against their country The ones that stood up are spending 15 years in a jail system known for torture and rape of men > There is already a wealth of reports of Russian tourists being enthusiastically militant about Russia's invasion So jail them, fine them for very large amounts, deport them back naked. Force them to lick dirt off the streets, whatever. Can our police not manage some fat asshole drawing a Z with a crayon?

arinlen 4y ago
> The ones that stood up are spending 15 years in a jail system known for torture and rape of men Aren't the russian armed forces are also known for torturing and raping their own conscripts and soldiers? With reports from captured soldiers on how russian officers are systematically killing wounded soldiers?