We may be in agreement then (it'll depend somewhat on locality, I think there is implicit assumption in this thread and HN of USA and that's fair enough). FWIW,

We may be in agreement then (it'll depend somewhat on locality, I think there is implicit assumption in this thread and HN of USA and that's fair enough). FWIW, wording can sometimes obstruct our message; to my literalist mind, "we don't need the police" and "their purpose is not worth serving", are radically different statements then "police currently is so broken, that if we wanted to fulfill their stated purpose, we need to start from scratch"