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> But the outcome won't change; Ukraine will ultimately win because it's not a war of choice for Ukraine and Ukraine has the allies it needs to keep fighting.

> But the outcome won't change; Ukraine will ultimately win because it's not a war of choice for Ukraine and Ukraine has the allies it needs to keep fighting. how allies will help if Russia will use tactical nukes on Ukrainian forces?

topspin 4y ago
He could try to play that card if he wants. Since we're going full hypothetical here I suspect he'd be removed by Russian military command if he tried. If not then it's WW3 for real; there is no 'tactical' nuke scenario that doesn't lead to a wider war.
- riku_iki 4y ago
  > it's WW3 for real; there is no 'tactical' nuke scenario that doesn't lead to a wider war. How so, why are you confident allies will declare some kind of war in such event?
  - topspin 4y ago
    Very. Nukes are special. There aren't really any degrees of nuance with nuclear weapons. The hysteria over fallout alone will polarize the world like it has never been polarized. Ever.
mint2 4y ago
If Russia uses tactical nukes then god help us all. If one though we were living in interesting times at the moment, they will soon think these are boring times. If a country invades a neighbor, claims it’s now part of their sovereign homeland while the neighbor is still actively defending, and then uses nukes based the justification their newly occupied “homeland” they just invaded is being invaded by its defenders then it means any country with nukes can use nukes to invade and grab neighboring territory At the very least, everyone is going to get nukes
- riku_iki 4y ago
  > At the very least, everyone is going to get nukes its ongoing process already. On one hand you have Iran, Israel, N Korea who developed/developing nukes, on another hand US has agreements for sharing nuclear weapons with plenty of countries already, I think American nukes deployed in several European countries right now.

topspin 4y ago

He could try to play that card if he wants. Since we're going full hypothetical here I suspect he'd be removed by Russian military command if he tried. If not then it's WW3 for real; there is no 'tactical' nuke scenario that doesn't lead to a wider war.

riku_iki 4y ago
> it's WW3 for real; there is no 'tactical' nuke scenario that doesn't lead to a wider war. How so, why are you confident allies will declare some kind of war in such event?
- topspin 4y ago
  Very. Nukes are special. There aren't really any degrees of nuance with nuclear weapons. The hysteria over fallout alone will polarize the world like it has never been polarized. Ever.

mint2 4y ago

If Russia uses tactical nukes then god help us all. If one though we were living in interesting times at the moment, they will soon think these are boring times. If a country invades a neighbor, claims it’s now part of their sovereign homeland while the neighbor is still actively defending, and then uses nukes based the justification their newly occupied “homeland” they just invaded is being invaded by its defenders then it means any country with nukes can use nukes to invade and grab neighboring territory At the very least, everyone is going to get nukes

riku_iki 4y ago
> At the very least, everyone is going to get nukes its ongoing process already. On one hand you have Iran, Israel, N Korea who developed/developing nukes, on another hand US has agreements for sharing nuclear weapons with plenty of countries already, I think American nukes deployed in several European countries right now.