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All the doublespeak is actually pretty amazing to witness... We're defending Russia but also "liberated" Kherson and Zaporizhzhia... The west is threatening u

All the doublespeak is actually pretty amazing to witness... We're defending Russia but also "liberated" Kherson and Zaporizhzhia... The west is threatening us with nuclear weapons... The regime which came into power in 2014 (nevermind that Poroshenko and that whole group were voted out in a democratic election where Zelenskiy and his party, who were notably more friendly to Russia at first, came to power)...

proxyon 4y ago
- Blackthorn 4y ago
  Ah yes, all those neo-nazi militias that checks notes supported a Jewish leader.
  - ndlso 4y ago
    - apurtbapurt 4y ago
      Ok? Some military guy in Ukraine has a patch with a skull and... drumroll THE NAZI:S ALSO USED IMAGES OF (not-quite-the-same-looking) SKULLS!!! If you are into this kind of scary stuff, I can warmly recomend a documentary from 2012 called Iron Sky. It really puts the American moon landings into a new light. No big surprise of course, since Americans often use eagle symbols, JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! The truth is out there!
    - noSyncCloud 4y ago
  - moistly 4y ago
    They’re so sneaky like that!
- pdabbadabba 4y ago
  Based on what you've given us, this just reads like a conclusory assertion likely rooted in pro-Russian conspiracy theory. If you have any real facts to share, I'll consider revising that assessment.
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  You quoted something I said but seemed to miss the point. Maybe it was a coup, maybe not (leaning towards no as it was a pretty popular protest). But Zelenskiy ousted Poroshenko regardless and absolutely no one doubts that Zelenskiy was elected. Lots happened between 2014 and 2022...
AnimalMuppet 4y ago
But see, if all of Ukraine is really part of Russia, then it all makes sense. They are "liberating" occupied territory, and "defending" Russia itself. If. But that's a psychological point in Putin's mind, not a reality in the real world. We're at the point where the pathologies of one man are driving this war.
- pupppet 4y ago
  Even that spin doesn't really work, who threatens to nuke their own territory?
Garvi 4y ago
What's actually amazing to witness is an A-list Hollywood director making a documentary on the CIA financing of neo-nazi groups inside Ukraine and their involvement in the killing of Donbass civillians in the civil war now raging for over 8 years and being censored so effectively, few US citizen seem to know about it. Another fact I find amazing is the maidan revolution being televised for weeks across the globe on all major news channels, with prominent EU leaders traveling to Kyiv and holding speeches to the crowds. One of those was Angela Merkel and hundreds of millions must have seen it. Today this fact is considered Russian propaganda and apparently never happened. Anyone watched the news 6 years ago and isn't afraid of being downvoted on an internet forum? Remember Merkel's "Right to be forgotten" act? Guess what she used it on. I came to this forum expecting a higher level of conversation than the horror I've witnessed on reddit. Instead I see outrage over "Russia support everywhere" in a thread where literally 1 heavily downvoted comment was not making fun of Russians(at the time of writing of course). I question the sincerity of people behind such comments. We all know psyops exist, but apparently never in our neighborhoods. Another theory is it's just trolling, which is basically a modern version of wife-beating. "Husband comes home from work frustrated where he was taking insults all day from an abusive boss and takes it out on his wife." vs. "Modern internet user is put down by society/boss/wife and takes it out on strangers on the internet." This whole propaganda shit-fest is playing right in the hands of abusers. My father used to say "come war, the bastards move up in society". And for gods sake, can someone tell me what percentage of the global production is weapons manufacturing? One used to be able to find that piece of information, but not anymore.
- secabeen 4y ago
  If you are making claims about suppressed media, why not include links to said media or information about them? Some might be interested in the documentary or the speech you mentioned.
  - Garvi 4y ago
    Fully intentional. As well as not mentioning the name of the prominent Hollywood director. If you're too afraid to google it, the 1984 comments in this thread bashing Russia will create their own gravity well from the irony displayed. Am a EU citizen, a communicologist and programmer.

proxyon 4y ago

Blackthorn 4y ago
Ah yes, all those neo-nazi militias that checks notes supported a Jewish leader.
- ndlso 4y ago
  - apurtbapurt 4y ago
    Ok? Some military guy in Ukraine has a patch with a skull and... drumroll THE NAZI:S ALSO USED IMAGES OF (not-quite-the-same-looking) SKULLS!!! If you are into this kind of scary stuff, I can warmly recomend a documentary from 2012 called Iron Sky. It really puts the American moon landings into a new light. No big surprise of course, since Americans often use eagle symbols, JUST LIKE THE NAZIS!!! The truth is out there!
  - noSyncCloud 4y ago
- moistly 4y ago
  They’re so sneaky like that!
pdabbadabba 4y ago
Based on what you've given us, this just reads like a conclusory assertion likely rooted in pro-Russian conspiracy theory. If you have any real facts to share, I'll consider revising that assessment.
Mikeb85 4y ago
You quoted something I said but seemed to miss the point. Maybe it was a coup, maybe not (leaning towards no as it was a pretty popular protest). But Zelenskiy ousted Poroshenko regardless and absolutely no one doubts that Zelenskiy was elected. Lots happened between 2014 and 2022...

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

But see, if all of Ukraine is really part of Russia, then it all makes sense. They are "liberating" occupied territory, and "defending" Russia itself. If. But that's a psychological point in Putin's mind, not a reality in the real world. We're at the point where the pathologies of one man are driving this war.

pupppet 4y ago
Even that spin doesn't really work, who threatens to nuke their own territory?

Garvi 4y ago

What's actually amazing to witness is an A-list Hollywood director making a documentary on the CIA financing of neo-nazi groups inside Ukraine and their involvement in the killing of Donbass civillians in the civil war now raging for over 8 years and being censored so effectively, few US citizen seem to know about it. Another fact I find amazing is the maidan revolution being televised for weeks across the globe on all major news channels, with prominent EU leaders traveling to Kyiv and holding speeches to the crowds. One of those was Angela Merkel and hundreds of millions must have seen it. Today this fact is considered Russian propaganda and apparently never happened. Anyone watched the news 6 years ago and isn't afraid of being downvoted on an internet forum? Remember Merkel's "Right to be forgotten" act? Guess what she used it on. I came to this forum expecting a higher level of conversation than the horror I've witnessed on reddit. Instead I see outrage over "Russia support everywhere" in a thread where literally 1 heavily downvoted comment was not making fun of Russians(at the time of writing of course). I question the sincerity of people behind such comments. We all know psyops exist, but apparently never in our neighborhoods. Another theory is it's just trolling, which is basically a modern version of wife-beating. "Husband comes home from work frustrated where he was taking insults all day from an abusive boss and takes it out on his wife." vs. "Modern internet user is put down by society/boss/wife and takes it out on strangers on the internet." This whole propaganda shit-fest is playing right in the hands of abusers. My father used to say "come war, the bastards move up in society". And for gods sake, can someone tell me what percentage of the global production is weapons manufacturing? One used to be able to find that piece of information, but not anymore.

secabeen 4y ago
If you are making claims about suppressed media, why not include links to said media or information about them? Some might be interested in the documentary or the speech you mentioned.
- Garvi 4y ago
  Fully intentional. As well as not mentioning the name of the prominent Hollywood director. If you're too afraid to google it, the 1984 comments in this thread bashing Russia will create their own gravity well from the irony displayed. Am a EU citizen, a communicologist and programmer.