3 ms·

wait so you wrote all that without actually watching the video? that also undermines your words. After you've watched the video, tell us if you think creating

wait so you wrote all that without actually watching the video? that also undermines your words. After you've watched the video, tell us if you think creating that music video, as a cohesive piece of art with beginning, middle, and end, complementing the tone and texture of the song, was actually "trivial". In emphasizing the role of a human ("Sagans") in creating the video, I was reacting to the glib headline "Created by AI". You and I agree on how none of these AI models would be doing anything interesting or useful were it not for the vast human effort that went into creating all the training data. I'm just pointing out that there's human artistry on the output side too, especially to create something that works as music video.

echelon 4y ago
Even if it requires humans now, it won't for long. That said, humans will leverage these technologies to reach even further heights. I'm excited in both senses. This is really going to push the envelope of what we're capable of, enable more of us to be creative, and supercharge those of us who really want to hone these capabilities.
- an1sotropy 4y ago
  "It won't for long" - well sure, but as tools become more powerful, our collective filters for what constitutes an interesting or valuable piece of art will be advanced too.
  - echelon 4y ago
    It cannot be an exponential that rises to infinity. At some point it'll hit the S-curve inflection. That plus dopamine plus deep personalization will make the last thirty years of tech and content look like the stone age.
Nursie 4y ago
I have watched it now, it's great. But I think that compared to creating a similar thing previous to these tools cropping up, it is now vastly easier and I also think that quite often the tool will provide the style and the look as part of its interpretation of the prompt, so one doesn't even need to have much in mind when starting out. I think "Created by AI" is quite reasonable, but yes a(nother) human has put in a lot of effort there as well. But even with this video as good as it is, I'm not convinced that "Sagans" can be said to be the main creative force here. Perhaps I reacted too strongly, and that's probably in response to seeing swarms of people out there on the net claiming 'artist' status for writing a few words, while telling the world that AI is 'just a tool like photoshop', which I find a bit sad and self-serving.

echelon 4y ago

Even if it requires humans now, it won't for long. That said, humans will leverage these technologies to reach even further heights. I'm excited in both senses. This is really going to push the envelope of what we're capable of, enable more of us to be creative, and supercharge those of us who really want to hone these capabilities.

an1sotropy 4y ago
"It won't for long" - well sure, but as tools become more powerful, our collective filters for what constitutes an interesting or valuable piece of art will be advanced too.
- echelon 4y ago
  It cannot be an exponential that rises to infinity. At some point it'll hit the S-curve inflection. That plus dopamine plus deep personalization will make the last thirty years of tech and content look like the stone age.

Nursie 4y ago

I have watched it now, it's great. But I think that compared to creating a similar thing previous to these tools cropping up, it is now vastly easier and I also think that quite often the tool will provide the style and the look as part of its interpretation of the prompt, so one doesn't even need to have much in mind when starting out. I think "Created by AI" is quite reasonable, but yes a(nother) human has put in a lot of effort there as well. But even with this video as good as it is, I'm not convinced that "Sagans" can be said to be the main creative force here. Perhaps I reacted too strongly, and that's probably in response to seeing swarms of people out there on the net claiming 'artist' status for writing a few words, while telling the world that AI is 'just a tool like photoshop', which I find a bit sad and self-serving.