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> Fortunately, for me at least, I think a found a path that works even if most people don’t want to climb on board. Would love for you to share this with me.

> Fortunately, for me at least, I think a found a path that works even if most people don’t want to climb on board. Would love for you to share this with me. I am doing my own thing as well. A friend and I have been talking about how to raise others consciousness about all of this if it is possible and the only conclusion we come to is to push the Overton window so far that it jolts peoples mental system. So we are striving to live a life like Franciscans, Buddhists, and Daoists. What do we really need to be content? How do we cope with our deconditioning from all the material wants? I almost stopped reading that article because of the beginning paragraphs. Glad I did not.

hosh 4y ago
I had the same reaction to the first few paragraphs. I’m glad it is written, and hope it wakes more people up to it. I don’t know if the author has looked into stuff like permaculture design principles and permaculture ethical principles. Those in turn were distilled from indigenous communities — point being, we do have something in our collective consciousness on how to do this … it’s just not in modernity. As far as deconditioning from our material wants — I do see some of this pop up from time to time. Minimalism. Marie Kondo. Mindfulness. I’ve also learned that people are walking their paths, and each of us have to discover the truths within ourselves. A society that uses _regenerative_ (not just sustainable) principles and practices, can open up space for people to get in touch within. However, it’s still something that someone has to voluntarily give it a try. Have you looked into the work of Carol Sanford? She has chosen to try to transform business for decades now, and managed to do that for the companies she worked with. There are also things I’m open to discussing further — in relation to Buddhism, Daoism, Consciousness, etc., just not in a public forum here. If you like to discuss those, you can email me at talktohosh at gmail.
hosh 4y ago
Also, I missed you asking about sharing what I found. Permaculture was the gateway into the world of what is possible. Consider, for example, the 3 permaculture ethical principles: - Care of Earth - Care of People - Fair Share This is all voluntary. It’s not about making people change, or changing the masses. The design principles shows a way of decentralizing food production in a way that is more resilient, adaptive, and also works with the culture (and not just the technologies or methods, hence “perma-culture”)Although the two people who originally put this together doesn’t address Consciousness or spirituality, I have found that these design principles can lead to way of life that has room and integrates cultivation of consciousness. That also lead me to Carol Sanford. You look around at articles and podcast, and then at some point, you see her mentioned all over the place in the permaculture world. As a hint of what is possible, with just better management of water, this series of video talks about implementing better use of water in India, and how it not only restored watersheds, but also helped people socially and addressed economic inequality: Episode 1: “Solving the Crisis in 45 Days” https://youtu.be/-8nqnOcoLqE https://youtu.be/-8nqnOcoLqE Episode 3: “From Poverty to Permaculture” https://youtu.be/KtHuIlfyJao https://youtu.be/KtHuIlfyJao Episode 7: “50 Years of Permaculture at Auroville” https://youtu.be/wcYL5Uya5MU https://youtu.be/wcYL5Uya5MU There are more. We can chat about it by email — talktohosh at gmail

hosh 4y ago

I had the same reaction to the first few paragraphs. I’m glad it is written, and hope it wakes more people up to it. I don’t know if the author has looked into stuff like permaculture design principles and permaculture ethical principles. Those in turn were distilled from indigenous communities — point being, we do have something in our collective consciousness on how to do this … it’s just not in modernity. As far as deconditioning from our material wants — I do see some of this pop up from time to time. Minimalism. Marie Kondo. Mindfulness. I’ve also learned that people are walking their paths, and each of us have to discover the truths within ourselves. A society that uses _regenerative_ (not just sustainable) principles and practices, can open up space for people to get in touch within. However, it’s still something that someone has to voluntarily give it a try. Have you looked into the work of Carol Sanford? She has chosen to try to transform business for decades now, and managed to do that for the companies she worked with. There are also things I’m open to discussing further — in relation to Buddhism, Daoism, Consciousness, etc., just not in a public forum here. If you like to discuss those, you can email me at talktohosh at gmail.

hosh 4y ago

Also, I missed you asking about sharing what I found. Permaculture was the gateway into the world of what is possible. Consider, for example, the 3 permaculture ethical principles: - Care of Earth - Care of People - Fair Share This is all voluntary. It’s not about making people change, or changing the masses. The design principles shows a way of decentralizing food production in a way that is more resilient, adaptive, and also works with the culture (and not just the technologies or methods, hence “perma-culture”)Although the two people who originally put this together doesn’t address Consciousness or spirituality, I have found that these design principles can lead to way of life that has room and integrates cultivation of consciousness. That also lead me to Carol Sanford. You look around at articles and podcast, and then at some point, you see her mentioned all over the place in the permaculture world. As a hint of what is possible, with just better management of water, this series of video talks about implementing better use of water in India, and how it not only restored watersheds, but also helped people socially and addressed economic inequality: Episode 1: “Solving the Crisis in 45 Days” https://youtu.be/-8nqnOcoLqE https://youtu.be/-8nqnOcoLqE Episode 3: “From Poverty to Permaculture” https://youtu.be/KtHuIlfyJao https://youtu.be/KtHuIlfyJao Episode 7: “50 Years of Permaculture at Auroville” https://youtu.be/wcYL5Uya5MU https://youtu.be/wcYL5Uya5MU There are more. We can chat about it by email — talktohosh at gmail