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They're also going to have a whole "RTX 60xx" series in like 4-5 years, aren't they? Seems like a really dumb choice to use the RTX branding with the same numbe

They're also going to have a whole "RTX 60xx" series in like 4-5 years, aren't they? Seems like a really dumb choice to use the RTX branding with the same number format for a totally separate product line, but maybe they're banking on that confusion to have people accidentally purchasing an 8 year old RTX 6000 when what they really wanted was an RTX 6050. Or since Nvidia is historically stupid with naming systems and can't stick with them, maybe the RTX 4-digit numbering goes away before 6000 series. They had a chance to keep a numbering system going when they did the GTX 1xx, GTX 2xx, GTX 3xx.... GTX 9xx, GTX 10xx, and could have gone to GTX 11xx and been set for as long as they wanted (well over a hundred years) counting up toward GTX 99xx), but instead they went to GTX 20xx and RTX 30xx so now they're going to run out of numbers again. Bets on what's next? Do we hit RTX 10,000 and then jump back down to XTX 100?

bedast 4y ago
I think they're intentionally going for confusion, at this point. I can't pinpoint which gen really pushed things in a bad direction, but it existed in the 3000 series, and an LTT video from yesterday even put it on full display, claiming a laptop has hardware that it doesn't have.
7speter 4y ago
PTX (Path Tracing) is the suspected next paradigm. Will it they move to 5 digits or 6? Do the tiers become hundreds or thousands or do they stay in the same place?
jesuscript 4y ago
Just to think that this all started with the GeForce 1, 2, 3, 4, and then oh shit, now we’re up to 5900? It’s probably Radeon’s fault because no one knew how it iterated all the way to a Radeon 9800 all of a sudden. Numbers don’t lie people, stop fucking with it. We’re up to the GeForce 20 basically. Marketing is a helluva a drug.
- prox 4y ago
  Well, dial it up to eleven because it’s one louder! That’s your marketing at work.
- KMnO4 4y ago
  I used to joke with a friend when they asked why I didn't upgrade my graphics card (a 9800 GT), that it was at least 9 times better than their 1080 Ti.
- Narishma 4y ago
  Wasn't the first one called GeForce 256?
bee_rider 4y ago
Somehow I hope Intel really does successfully break into the GPU game with more rationally named products. And yes I know how absurd their names can get.
- Our_Benefactors 4y ago
  How would you suggest rationally naming GPU products? Tflops, shaders, means nothing to the average consumer. Can this one run the newest call of shooty on the “best” settings? GPU performance is usually presented as relative to another piece of hardware to demonstrate the improvements.
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    It doesn't have to be based on a particular metric, they should just pick a numerical sequence and stick to it. I would suggest: G-M, where G is the generation and M is the market segment. They could even make M a letter (A, B, C) to avoid confusion (rather than using 50, 60, 70, 80, which was the closest thing they got to a convention). A=awesome, B=better, C=consumer. They can stick a W on the front for workstation cards, and give them another letter at the end for special high-memory runs or whatever. So this could be something like the: w20a-h.
KptMarchewa 4y ago
They've wrapped around two times already. Few examples: there was GeForce MX 4000 (in 2003), GeForce GTX 480 (in 2010) and now GeForce RTX 4080. Intel at least had the decency to go into five figure numbers with their CPUs.
- lostmsu 4y ago
  Like 80486? Which I guess was 3 years better than 68000.
numpad0 4y ago
Do they have an internal product codes separate from marketing names, e.g. Model A2649, Model 1900, 0F10383, 11A511, 3270, 993, etc., or are their internal systems all like "RTX6000ADA"?
donmcronald 4y ago
I think they do it on purpose to keep the average consumer from being able to understand the price/performance to expect between the SKUs in each generation. If they’re selling what should be a 4060Ti as a 4080 [1] they need to “reset” the naming scheme every once in a while when they run out of names at the top end. IMO it’s shrinkflation for GPUs and the naming confusion is used as an attempt to hide it. My prediction is they change the entire naming scheme for the next generation because the current scheme invites historical comparison and criticism like the Reddit post I linked. Watch them switch to pure, meaningless names. It wouldn’t surprise me. 1. https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/xk2nsf/the_4080_12gb_and_4080_16gb_have_vastly_different/ipbt3d3/ https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/xk2nsf/the_40...

bedast 4y ago

I think they're intentionally going for confusion, at this point. I can't pinpoint which gen really pushed things in a bad direction, but it existed in the 3000 series, and an LTT video from yesterday even put it on full display, claiming a laptop has hardware that it doesn't have.

7speter 4y ago

PTX (Path Tracing) is the suspected next paradigm. Will it they move to 5 digits or 6? Do the tiers become hundreds or thousands or do they stay in the same place?

jesuscript 4y ago

Just to think that this all started with the GeForce 1, 2, 3, 4, and then oh shit, now we’re up to 5900? It’s probably Radeon’s fault because no one knew how it iterated all the way to a Radeon 9800 all of a sudden. Numbers don’t lie people, stop fucking with it. We’re up to the GeForce 20 basically. Marketing is a helluva a drug.

prox 4y ago
Well, dial it up to eleven because it’s one louder! That’s your marketing at work.
KMnO4 4y ago
I used to joke with a friend when they asked why I didn't upgrade my graphics card (a 9800 GT), that it was at least 9 times better than their 1080 Ti.
Narishma 4y ago
Wasn't the first one called GeForce 256?

bee_rider 4y ago

Somehow I hope Intel really does successfully break into the GPU game with more rationally named products. And yes I know how absurd their names can get.

Our_Benefactors 4y ago
How would you suggest rationally naming GPU products? Tflops, shaders, means nothing to the average consumer. Can this one run the newest call of shooty on the “best” settings? GPU performance is usually presented as relative to another piece of hardware to demonstrate the improvements.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  It doesn't have to be based on a particular metric, they should just pick a numerical sequence and stick to it. I would suggest: G-M, where G is the generation and M is the market segment. They could even make M a letter (A, B, C) to avoid confusion (rather than using 50, 60, 70, 80, which was the closest thing they got to a convention). A=awesome, B=better, C=consumer. They can stick a W on the front for workstation cards, and give them another letter at the end for special high-memory runs or whatever. So this could be something like the: w20a-h.

KptMarchewa 4y ago

They've wrapped around two times already. Few examples: there was GeForce MX 4000 (in 2003), GeForce GTX 480 (in 2010) and now GeForce RTX 4080. Intel at least had the decency to go into five figure numbers with their CPUs.

lostmsu 4y ago
Like 80486? Which I guess was 3 years better than 68000.

numpad0 4y ago

Do they have an internal product codes separate from marketing names, e.g. Model A2649, Model 1900, 0F10383, 11A511, 3270, 993, etc., or are their internal systems all like "RTX6000ADA"?

donmcronald 4y ago

I think they do it on purpose to keep the average consumer from being able to understand the price/performance to expect between the SKUs in each generation. If they’re selling what should be a 4060Ti as a 4080 [1] they need to “reset” the naming scheme every once in a while when they run out of names at the top end. IMO it’s shrinkflation for GPUs and the naming confusion is used as an attempt to hide it. My prediction is they change the entire naming scheme for the next generation because the current scheme invites historical comparison and criticism like the Reddit post I linked. Watch them switch to pure, meaningless names. It wouldn’t surprise me. 1. https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/xk2nsf/the_4080_12gb_and_4080_16gb_have_vastly_different/ipbt3d3/ https://old.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/xk2nsf/the_40...