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"Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions" This is nonsense. There are millions of people

"Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions" This is nonsense. There are millions of people from different European countries working in the UK, including new arrivals post-Brexit. Around half of women voted to leave the EU. One of the senior politicians who supported Vote Leave is a middle aged British Indian woman. https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/brexit-votes-by-gender/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/brexit-votes-by-g...

mrtksn 4y ago
The caveat is, you need to ask for permission from the government first, pay money and get processed. That’s the case for every country. Even North Koreans can work and live anywhere in the world if you choose to dismiss the difficulties.
- origin_path 4y ago
  Yes, everyone knows that which is why it's so ridiculous that you claimed otherwise. You shouldn't lie about the actual situation because you personally dislike Brexit, old men or both (not sure which). It's dishonorable.
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    Actual situation is that Brits no longer can work in EU and vice versa. It's kind of obvious that once you acquire a work visa, you can. It's like Windows games won't run on Mac unless you install specialised software that might run some Windows games in varying degrees of playability. I guess you can't cater to everyones intelligence all the time, some people don't know about work visas and they can feel deceived when look at the statistics clearly showing that some people indeed can work in countries that someone declared not possible to work. My apologies.
    - Gud 4y ago
      This is not really true. I work for a European factory and I go to work in the UK all the time on a business visa.
      - mrtksn 4y ago
        Visa types and requirements and procedures change by country. It's kind of obvious isn't it? Is it really too complicated as a concept that we need to talk about it? The gist is, EU/UK no longer can work freely as they and their employers sees fit and government permission which is usually called work visa but can have different names is required. Some people qualify and obtain those, others don't qualify or don't bother. Usually comes with complications at retirement and long term life options and travel complications. I'm confused why this has become a problem of speech precision. Even if the language is prices and people don't melt down, the reality on the ground often doesn't match the paper trail. Lots of people work without visa(arrive illegally?) or they arrive on one kind of visa but do stuff that require another kind of visa. Although these people work in UK/EU, it doesn't mean that they can work in the UK/EU.

mrtksn 4y ago

The caveat is, you need to ask for permission from the government first, pay money and get processed. That’s the case for every country. Even North Koreans can work and live anywhere in the world if you choose to dismiss the difficulties.

origin_path 4y ago
Yes, everyone knows that which is why it's so ridiculous that you claimed otherwise. You shouldn't lie about the actual situation because you personally dislike Brexit, old men or both (not sure which). It's dishonorable.
- mrtksn 4y ago
  Actual situation is that Brits no longer can work in EU and vice versa. It's kind of obvious that once you acquire a work visa, you can. It's like Windows games won't run on Mac unless you install specialised software that might run some Windows games in varying degrees of playability. I guess you can't cater to everyones intelligence all the time, some people don't know about work visas and they can feel deceived when look at the statistics clearly showing that some people indeed can work in countries that someone declared not possible to work. My apologies.
  - Gud 4y ago
    This is not really true. I work for a European factory and I go to work in the UK all the time on a business visa.
    - mrtksn 4y ago
      Visa types and requirements and procedures change by country. It's kind of obvious isn't it? Is it really too complicated as a concept that we need to talk about it? The gist is, EU/UK no longer can work freely as they and their employers sees fit and government permission which is usually called work visa but can have different names is required. Some people qualify and obtain those, others don't qualify or don't bother. Usually comes with complications at retirement and long term life options and travel complications. I'm confused why this has become a problem of speech precision. Even if the language is prices and people don't melt down, the reality on the ground often doesn't match the paper trail. Lots of people work without visa(arrive illegally?) or they arrive on one kind of visa but do stuff that require another kind of visa. Although these people work in UK/EU, it doesn't mean that they can work in the UK/EU.