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Yes, this article gets to the heart of the problem, like a few others, eg https://www.monbiot.com/2019/04/30/the-problem-is-capitalism/ https://www.monbiot.com/
by jacknews 4y ago
Yes, this article gets to the heart of the problem, like a few others, eg https://www.monbiot.com/2019/04/30/the-problem-is-capitalism/ https://www.monbiot.com/2019/04/30/the-problem-is-capitalism...
Electric cars and other techno-fixes at best reduce the damage caused by what we do, and at worst, hide the damage from us.
The actual problem is in what we do, how we live.
IMHO there are two sustainable paths.
We can live 'in nature', as the article suggests. This probably requires a much lower population, and probable accepting nature's solutions to problems. Famine for over-population, etc.
Or we can detach entirely from nature. Live in beautiful self-sustaining cities, our food produced by cell culture, fermentation, indoor farms, etc, energy from solar, deep geothermal, etc. The rest of the world is a nature reserve.
- junofan 4y agoSounds cultish. What makes you think either of those paths are workable? Why wouldn’t what we’re doing now lead to a sustainable future? What does hiding the damage mean?
- yodsanklai 4y ago> Why wouldn’t what we’re doing now lead to a sustainable future? Because what we're doing now is "growth", which isn't sustainable in a finite word. Unless you believe humanity is going to colonise the galaxy very soon. I recommend "limits to growth" which is still very relevant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth
- FollowingTheDao 4y agoAnd you think capitalism is not a cult?
- hosh 4y agoThere are a lot of of solutions from permaculture design in which one can “live with nature”. I think a lot of people would be surprised by what is possible. But it still requires a change in the world view and way of life.
- tengbretson 4y agoYou can go live like that now in the metaverse and you don't have to disrupt how the rest of us live.
- FollowingTheDao 4y agoAre you serious? Really, are you?
- tengbretson 4y agoIt's always worth considering solutions that don't require forcefully changing the behavior of billions of people.
- FollowingTheDao 4y agoDon't worry about other people's behavior, just focus on your own. Because that is what you re really telling me. You do not want to change your own behavior.