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You can't force me to host your content if I don't like your content. I don't care what rights you think you have. It's my server and I decide what goes on it.

dougabug 4y ago
Exactly so. Your decision not to host certain content you find odious is a valid exercise of your freedom of speech, as well as your freedom of association.
FpUser 4y ago
There are special rules for a public companies. I do not see any reason why dominant platforms should not be prevented from terminating customer's accounts for anything that is legal. Alternatively we would have a society which democratic by name but where your life is controlled by few big corporations. Looks like we are heading there anyways.
- mynameisvlad 4y ago
  Private corporations are not the government. We’ve done fine with the current rights and freedoms, applied to governments only, for the past 200 years. I think we’ll manage for another few.
  - FpUser 4y ago
    >"Private corporations are not the government." With all lobbying power? Yeah sure. Also publicly traded companies that are also near monopolies are not really "private companies". They have way too much power over people's lives. >"We’ve done fine with the current rights and freedoms" No we have not and what rights we have are deteriorating
    - mynameisvlad 4y ago
      > With all lobbying power? Yeah sure. Also publicly traded companies that are also near monopolies are not really "private companies". They have way too much power over people's lives. None of that makes them the government or makes the rights and freedoms associated with the BoR applicable to them. They are also not a monopoly or anywhere near one. Many payment processors exist, as evidenced by the fact that literally even in the article itself the author mentions that any non-PayPal subscription is still active. Or the comment which shows a brand new one that seems to be targeted towards “free speech bastions” like this. > No we have not and what rights we have are deteriorating Source. Especially on the latter, which you clearly see this as.
- dougabug 4y ago
  The established remedy for abusive monopolies is enforcement of antitrust laws.
codedokode 4y ago
I am sure that you are wrong. For example, imagine if Facebook would promote pro-Russian content and hide pro-Ukranian or pro-NATO content in the newsfeed. Perfectly legal, but how long they will be able to pull it? I don't think it will be more than 1 or 2 weeks. So it is your server only as long as you ban outcasts like 8chan and don't cross paths with people in the power.
Gigachad 4y ago
When you provide that server out as a service, those rights change. Like how owing a house doesn’t give you unlimited rights when you decide to rent it out.

dougabug 4y ago

Exactly so. Your decision not to host certain content you find odious is a valid exercise of your freedom of speech, as well as your freedom of association.

FpUser 4y ago

There are special rules for a public companies. I do not see any reason why dominant platforms should not be prevented from terminating customer's accounts for anything that is legal. Alternatively we would have a society which democratic by name but where your life is controlled by few big corporations. Looks like we are heading there anyways.

mynameisvlad 4y ago
Private corporations are not the government. We’ve done fine with the current rights and freedoms, applied to governments only, for the past 200 years. I think we’ll manage for another few.
- FpUser 4y ago
  >"Private corporations are not the government." With all lobbying power? Yeah sure. Also publicly traded companies that are also near monopolies are not really "private companies". They have way too much power over people's lives. >"We’ve done fine with the current rights and freedoms" No we have not and what rights we have are deteriorating
  - mynameisvlad 4y ago
    > With all lobbying power? Yeah sure. Also publicly traded companies that are also near monopolies are not really "private companies". They have way too much power over people's lives. None of that makes them the government or makes the rights and freedoms associated with the BoR applicable to them. They are also not a monopoly or anywhere near one. Many payment processors exist, as evidenced by the fact that literally even in the article itself the author mentions that any non-PayPal subscription is still active. Or the comment which shows a brand new one that seems to be targeted towards “free speech bastions” like this. > No we have not and what rights we have are deteriorating Source. Especially on the latter, which you clearly see this as.
dougabug 4y ago
The established remedy for abusive monopolies is enforcement of antitrust laws.

codedokode 4y ago

I am sure that you are wrong. For example, imagine if Facebook would promote pro-Russian content and hide pro-Ukranian or pro-NATO content in the newsfeed. Perfectly legal, but how long they will be able to pull it? I don't think it will be more than 1 or 2 weeks. So it is your server only as long as you ban outcasts like 8chan and don't cross paths with people in the power.

Gigachad 4y ago

When you provide that server out as a service, those rights change. Like how owing a house doesn’t give you unlimited rights when you decide to rent it out.