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> It's bizarre and I don't see anything special about Russia TBH. It's just that they seem to be ahead of the west in the direction the world is headed. On the

> It's bizarre and I don't see anything special about Russia TBH. It's just that they seem to be ahead of the west in the direction the world is headed. On the contrary, they seem to be a century behind. Even China told them they should try to find a diplomatic solution. India told them this is not the time for war. The world has other problems than an old man's ambitions.

mrtksn 4y ago
Apparently not, lives have been shattered because old mens ambitions since ever. Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions. Because of old mens ambitions large number of Americans no longer believe in democratic elections. Because of old mens ambitions countless people have died in the middle east and other places. What Russia is ahead of is that they are first in the game of attacking neighboring countries with regular armies for old mens ambitions.
- mistermann 4y ago
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    Oh I don’t claim that the old men are the problem, it’s just that some ambitious old men can indeed cause huge destruction.
    - mistermann 4y ago
      This seems not quite correct: >>> On the contrary, they seem to be a century behind. Even China told them they should try to find a diplomatic solution. India told them this is not the time for war. The world has other problems than an old man's ambitions. >> Apparently not.... This seems to me like disagreement with the parent assertion that "The world has other problems than an old man's ambitions", and then add to that that you continue on at length about the many problems "caused" by old men (which I do not disagree with at least in an absolute sense by the way). > ...it’s just that some ambitious old men can indeed cause huge destruction Things like this can be perfectly true, while simultaneously being misinformative, in that it can cause the mind that ingests the idea to assign inaccurate causal weight to the individual phenomenon/variable, form confident non-comprehensive conceptualizations of the system, etc.
- origin_path 4y ago
  "Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions" This is nonsense. There are millions of people from different European countries working in the UK, including new arrivals post-Brexit. Around half of women voted to leave the EU. One of the senior politicians who supported Vote Leave is a middle aged British Indian woman. https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/brexit-votes-by-gender/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/brexit-votes-by-g...
  - mrtksn 4y ago
    The caveat is, you need to ask for permission from the government first, pay money and get processed. That’s the case for every country. Even North Koreans can work and live anywhere in the world if you choose to dismiss the difficulties.
    - origin_path 4y ago
      Yes, everyone knows that which is why it's so ridiculous that you claimed otherwise. You shouldn't lie about the actual situation because you personally dislike Brexit, old men or both (not sure which). It's dishonorable.
      - mrtksn 4y ago
        Actual situation is that Brits no longer can work in EU and vice versa. It's kind of obvious that once you acquire a work visa, you can. It's like Windows games won't run on Mac unless you install specialised software that might run some Windows games in varying degrees of playability. I guess you can't cater to everyones intelligence all the time, some people don't know about work visas and they can feel deceived when look at the statistics clearly showing that some people indeed can work in countries that someone declared not possible to work. My apologies.
        Gud 4y ago
        This is not really true. I work for a European factory and I go to work in the UK all the time on a business visa.

mrtksn 4y ago

Apparently not, lives have been shattered because old mens ambitions since ever. Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions. Because of old mens ambitions large number of Americans no longer believe in democratic elections. Because of old mens ambitions countless people have died in the middle east and other places. What Russia is ahead of is that they are first in the game of attacking neighboring countries with regular armies for old mens ambitions.

mistermann 4y ago
- mrtksn 4y ago
  Oh I don’t claim that the old men are the problem, it’s just that some ambitious old men can indeed cause huge destruction.
  - mistermann 4y ago
    This seems not quite correct: >>> On the contrary, they seem to be a century behind. Even China told them they should try to find a diplomatic solution. India told them this is not the time for war. The world has other problems than an old man's ambitions. >> Apparently not.... This seems to me like disagreement with the parent assertion that "The world has other problems than an old man's ambitions", and then add to that that you continue on at length about the many problems "caused" by old men (which I do not disagree with at least in an absolute sense by the way). > ...it’s just that some ambitious old men can indeed cause huge destruction Things like this can be perfectly true, while simultaneously being misinformative, in that it can cause the mind that ingests the idea to assign inaccurate causal weight to the individual phenomenon/variable, form confident non-comprehensive conceptualizations of the system, etc.
origin_path 4y ago
"Europeans and British can no longer live and work in their respective countries because of old mens ambitions" This is nonsense. There are millions of people from different European countries working in the UK, including new arrivals post-Brexit. Around half of women voted to leave the EU. One of the senior politicians who supported Vote Leave is a middle aged British Indian woman. https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/brexit-votes-by-gender/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/567922/brexit-votes-by-g...
- mrtksn 4y ago
  The caveat is, you need to ask for permission from the government first, pay money and get processed. That’s the case for every country. Even North Koreans can work and live anywhere in the world if you choose to dismiss the difficulties.
  - origin_path 4y ago
    Yes, everyone knows that which is why it's so ridiculous that you claimed otherwise. You shouldn't lie about the actual situation because you personally dislike Brexit, old men or both (not sure which). It's dishonorable.
    - mrtksn 4y ago
      Actual situation is that Brits no longer can work in EU and vice versa. It's kind of obvious that once you acquire a work visa, you can. It's like Windows games won't run on Mac unless you install specialised software that might run some Windows games in varying degrees of playability. I guess you can't cater to everyones intelligence all the time, some people don't know about work visas and they can feel deceived when look at the statistics clearly showing that some people indeed can work in countries that someone declared not possible to work. My apologies.
      - Gud 4y ago
        This is not really true. I work for a European factory and I go to work in the UK all the time on a business visa.