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>Russia appears to have 10x the casualties as Ukraine Reliable source? That isn't what I read anywhere from not-so-partial sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wik

>Russia appears to have 10x the casualties as Ukraine Reliable source? That isn't what I read anywhere from not-so-partial sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War#2022_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrain...

leshenka 4y ago
Officials say there are close to 6k dead. Mobilization wants 300k recruits. This doesn't add up at all. Not sure about 10x casualties as Ukraine, but I'm sure it's 10x of what they're saying
- AlfeG 4y ago
  Recruiting 300k and number of dead soldiers are not always correlate. It's amount of land to control and amount of soldiers required is in correlation. RF seems underestimate amount of soldiers need to control and protect land, they dropped lot of land and reduced length border to protect.
Markoff 4y ago
I like how Russian forces have various estimates, but for Ukrainian forces we take Ukraine data for granted, while the truth is both countries are highly likely downplaying their losses, same as both of their dictators are same corrupted thieves as proven in Pandora Papers last year when they were appearing together in all articles. Can't believe someone believes any data coming from these 3rd world countries.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
  Of course both sides have an interest in downplaying their losses, and exaggerating their victories. Do you think that reporters and conflict analysts aren't perfectly aware of this ancient fact?
  - Markoff 4y ago
    Where are then US, UK and other countries estimates about Ukraine losses? Because they certainly aren't in linked Wikipedia article and all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda and few articles from Russian claims (which are on opposite side of spectrum, not thta those ridiculous US estimates would not be propaganda as well).
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
      > all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda There is no use discussing it if any results that contradict you are "propaganda"
      - Markoff 4y ago
        > all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda and few articles from Russian claims As I said all I can find for Ukrainian losses is Ukrainian propaganda straight from Ukrainian gov or Russian propaganda from Russian gov. I wanna filter out both of these extremes and see some reasonable numbers since any data from RU/UA are clearly completely unrealistic for their own purposes. "Information" spread by Ukrainian gov ais well known propaganda and not "information", there is no point to call them otherwise. There is really no use of discussing it if you can't provide independent estimates by UK, US or even better some more neutral observers like China, India, etc.

leshenka 4y ago

Officials say there are close to 6k dead. Mobilization wants 300k recruits. This doesn't add up at all. Not sure about 10x casualties as Ukraine, but I'm sure it's 10x of what they're saying

AlfeG 4y ago
Recruiting 300k and number of dead soldiers are not always correlate. It's amount of land to control and amount of soldiers required is in correlation. RF seems underestimate amount of soldiers need to control and protect land, they dropped lot of land and reduced length border to protect.

Markoff 4y ago

I like how Russian forces have various estimates, but for Ukrainian forces we take Ukraine data for granted, while the truth is both countries are highly likely downplaying their losses, same as both of their dictators are same corrupted thieves as proven in Pandora Papers last year when they were appearing together in all articles. Can't believe someone believes any data coming from these 3rd world countries.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
Of course both sides have an interest in downplaying their losses, and exaggerating their victories. Do you think that reporters and conflict analysts aren't perfectly aware of this ancient fact?
- Markoff 4y ago
  Where are then US, UK and other countries estimates about Ukraine losses? Because they certainly aren't in linked Wikipedia article and all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda and few articles from Russian claims (which are on opposite side of spectrum, not thta those ridiculous US estimates would not be propaganda as well).
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
    > all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda There is no use discussing it if any results that contradict you are "propaganda"
    - Markoff 4y ago
      > all I can find in Google is just Ukrainian propaganda and few articles from Russian claims As I said all I can find for Ukrainian losses is Ukrainian propaganda straight from Ukrainian gov or Russian propaganda from Russian gov. I wanna filter out both of these extremes and see some reasonable numbers since any data from RU/UA are clearly completely unrealistic for their own purposes. "Information" spread by Ukrainian gov ais well known propaganda and not "information", there is no point to call them otherwise. There is really no use of discussing it if you can't provide independent estimates by UK, US or even better some more neutral observers like China, India, etc.