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We can look at other countries which are under Russia’s influence or were attacked by Russia such as Georgia, Belarus or Ukraine in its two phases before 2014 a
by blub 4y ago
We can look at other countries which are under Russia’s influence or were attacked by Russia such as Georgia, Belarus or Ukraine in its two phases before 2014 and also before 2022. No deathcamps.
In general occupation is less violent than a war by definition. I don’t doubt that they would purge the military and administration, but the outcome would be more or less “Russia” for the majority of the people. Corruption, poverty, abuses of power.
Regarding your link, I don’t believe Ukrainian or Russian sources. They are propaganda organs of the state.
When Amnesty International dared criticize Ukrainian war crimes it came under a torrent of abuse, one can imagine what kind of retribution a critical article from a local organization would receive…
AFAIK foreign journalists don’t get any access either and have to make do with what they’re told.
- tarasglek 4y agoNone of the countries you mentioned were permanently occupied. Abhasia, LNR, DNR have all been clensed of opposition. LNR and DNR males are being forced into military operations like indentured servants of Russian empire. What news sources do you believe?
- blub 4y agoUkraine was strongly under Russia’s influence for most of its independent history. Given the behavior at the beginning of the invasion, it seems that the Russians were attempting a coup, likely followed by establishing some military presence, similar to Transnistria for example. Other countries like Eastern Germany, Romania, Poland, Bulgaria, etc were under Soviet occupation for decades. I believe that the absolute worst case would have looked like in those countries. The more likely case would be a coup, purge of political apparatus and military bases. I believe you’re talking about conscription in regards to the LPR and DPR. Yes, that’s bad, but to answer your question in the sibling comment… that’s war. Men have to fight whether they want it or not, unfortunately. Where can one read from an impartial organization about what happened in the DPR and LPR? Does cleansed mean killed, or that they fled or were arrested? According to https://mondediplo.com/2022/09/09donbass https://mondediplo.com/2022/09/09donbass life is as one would expect during war. Terrible…
- tarasglek 4y agoWhat do you call it when you are committing entire working age male population of a region to certain death?