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>“We are talking about partial mobilization, that is, only citizens who are currently in the reserve will be subject to conscription, and above all, those who s

by r721 4y ago

>“We are talking about partial mobilization, that is, only citizens who are currently in the reserve will be subject to conscription, and above all, those who served in the armed forces have a certain military specialty and relevant experience,” Putin said. https://apnews.com/f64f9c91f24fc81bc8cc65e8bc7748f4 https://apnews.com/f64f9c91f24fc81bc8cc65e8bc7748f4

rasz 4y ago
Almost every single ru male under 60 is in the reserve. Thats what state-mandated 12-24 month conscription is all about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia#Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia#Russia
- foverzar 4y ago
  Why did you ommit "relevant experience" and "military specialty" part? My military specialty is "computer operator", lol. Also, 24 months is something from two decades ago.
  - rasz 4y ago
    How about a 32 old IT specialist with no experience whatsoever? https://twitter.com/dasha_reports/status/1572929082014277633 https://twitter.com/dasha_reports/status/1572929082014277633 >Victor Bugreev, 32, he is an IT specialist for Sberbank in Moscow, he received a summons yesterday: "I have never served, I have not done military service, I do not have a military specialty, I do not have a military department. I'll go, what to do. Or a criminal case."
  - rasz 4y ago
    Because I lived under russian occupation and know how those things work first hand. Their official propaganda newspaper is still called Pravda (truth). Do you really expect this particular part to be true among the sea of other lies? This is how it started https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-separatists-are-mass-conscripting-anyone-of-fighting-age/a-61608760 https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-separatists-are-mass-consc... and this is how its going https://vk.com/wall-58177259_1120387 https://vk.com/wall-58177259_1120387 (kidnapped off the street straight to military) >Also, 24 months is something from two decades ago. Exactly the people they will force back to military now, up to 60 old. Here you go from st.Petersburg https://twitter.com/KramarenkoMari3/status/1572522854608171012/photo/1 https://twitter.com/KramarenkoMari3/status/15725228546081710... 42 year old with 2 year mandatory service record.
    - Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
      > Because I lived under russian occupation I'm not quite sure where you are from, but unless you are from Ukraine, it is likely you lived under soviet occupation. In this sense, Russia itself is still under it, too.
      - trasz 4y ago
        No, same way India wasn't under Commonwealth occupation. "Soviet Union" was the colonial empire, but individual countries were occupied by Russia.
        Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
        This is nonsense. Soviet union was a multinational state run by a very ideological party that suppressed any nationalistic sentiment. In all its 70 years it was led by Russians for maybe 16 or 17 years (Lenin, barely, then Khrushchev, Andropov and Gorbachev).
        trasz 4y ago
        And all the racism and colonialism magically reappeared in 1990?
        Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
        There nationalistic tensions that existed since time immemorial, which were suppressed by a state with a powerful state security. Once the state vanished, the hell broke loose. Same thing happened in India, btw: once the British went away, religious and nationalistic tensions erupted violently. I'm not aware of any colonialism that far magically appeared in 1990 in USSR/Russia. If you are referring to Ukraine conflict, this is not colonialism, just a regular conquest attempt to score points with some subset of public, which is going disastrously bad. Small victorious wars are always like that in Russia. Regarding racism, it is nonexistent in exUSSR/Russia. Internet users like to use big words like racism and genocide left and right to label things they don't like, but this will result only in diluting the original meaning of the word. Sure, there are tensions between people of certain nationalities (Armenia/Azerbaijan, Tatar/Bashkir, some others), but it has nothing to do with racism.

by r721 4y ago

rasz 4y ago

Almost every single ru male under 60 is in the reserve. Thats what state-mandated 12-24 month conscription is all about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia#Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_Russia#Russia

foverzar 4y ago
Why did you ommit "relevant experience" and "military specialty" part? My military specialty is "computer operator", lol. Also, 24 months is something from two decades ago.
- rasz 4y ago
  How about a 32 old IT specialist with no experience whatsoever? https://twitter.com/dasha_reports/status/1572929082014277633 https://twitter.com/dasha_reports/status/1572929082014277633 >Victor Bugreev, 32, he is an IT specialist for Sberbank in Moscow, he received a summons yesterday: "I have never served, I have not done military service, I do not have a military specialty, I do not have a military department. I'll go, what to do. Or a criminal case."
- rasz 4y ago
  Because I lived under russian occupation and know how those things work first hand. Their official propaganda newspaper is still called Pravda (truth). Do you really expect this particular part to be true among the sea of other lies? This is how it started https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-separatists-are-mass-conscripting-anyone-of-fighting-age/a-61608760 https://www.dw.com/en/how-ukraine-separatists-are-mass-consc... and this is how its going https://vk.com/wall-58177259_1120387 https://vk.com/wall-58177259_1120387 (kidnapped off the street straight to military) >Also, 24 months is something from two decades ago. Exactly the people they will force back to military now, up to 60 old. Here you go from st.Petersburg https://twitter.com/KramarenkoMari3/status/1572522854608171012/photo/1 https://twitter.com/KramarenkoMari3/status/15725228546081710... 42 year old with 2 year mandatory service record.
  - Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
    > Because I lived under russian occupation I'm not quite sure where you are from, but unless you are from Ukraine, it is likely you lived under soviet occupation. In this sense, Russia itself is still under it, too.
    - trasz 4y ago
      No, same way India wasn't under Commonwealth occupation. "Soviet Union" was the colonial empire, but individual countries were occupied by Russia.
      - Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
        This is nonsense. Soviet union was a multinational state run by a very ideological party that suppressed any nationalistic sentiment. In all its 70 years it was led by Russians for maybe 16 or 17 years (Lenin, barely, then Khrushchev, Andropov and Gorbachev).
        trasz 4y ago
        And all the racism and colonialism magically reappeared in 1990?
        Andrew_nenakhov 4y ago
        There nationalistic tensions that existed since time immemorial, which were suppressed by a state with a powerful state security. Once the state vanished, the hell broke loose. Same thing happened in India, btw: once the British went away, religious and nationalistic tensions erupted violently. I'm not aware of any colonialism that far magically appeared in 1990 in USSR/Russia. If you are referring to Ukraine conflict, this is not colonialism, just a regular conquest attempt to score points with some subset of public, which is going disastrously bad. Small victorious wars are always like that in Russia. Regarding racism, it is nonexistent in exUSSR/Russia. Internet users like to use big words like racism and genocide left and right to label things they don't like, but this will result only in diluting the original meaning of the word. Sure, there are tensions between people of certain nationalities (Armenia/Azerbaijan, Tatar/Bashkir, some others), but it has nothing to do with racism.