I don't doubt what you're saying. I also assume the bright kid is lying or making it up. This is not just for car sales, but any salesman. If I can't find it ou

I don't doubt what you're saying. I also assume the bright kid is lying or making it up. This is not just for car sales, but any salesman. If I can't find it out myself, I have no reason to ask the bright kid. Sometimes I ask them a token question to see if they'll lie to me. I'd buy from the vending machine in a hot minute. But I might be a freak. To be fair, my most recent car buying experience was just fine. It was a new Subaru, just as the pandemic was starting and they had a lot of excess inventory. We paid the asking price, but it was close enough to the best price we could find from our research. The finance salesman pushed every possible add-on, and we simply countered with "let us take the brochure home and figure out what we want to do." At the end we wrote a check for the car with no extra goodies and drove away.