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Yandex.com, my friend. It even returns results from Ulta Cancelled video websites like Bitchute, Rumble and Odyssey.

14 4y ago
I’ve recently started using yandex lately and have say I also find it refreshing. My favourite is the image search I just find it superior to other search engines.
- dijonman2 4y ago
  Better than bing image search, my current go to?
  - esotericsean 4y ago
    Someone uses Bing?
    - niels_bom 4y ago
      Bing image search does not suffer from Pinterest-itis as Google Images does.
      - iggldiggl 4y ago
        I absolutely understand the annoyance-factor of "Pinterest-itis" (though it seems that either they've dialled their "you must absolutely register now in order to see anything"-behaviour down a little bit again, or maybe it's just that half-forgotten userscript I installed at some point – either way it's currently not that infuriating for me), but given that e.g. direct image indexing seems almost non-existant for Instagram, being able to stumble across some images from there via the detour of Pinterest is better than nothing I suppose. (It's only infuriating if somebody saved an image to their computer/phone/… and then manually re-uploaded it to Pinterest again, so that the source URL of the image is then missing…) Likewise if the original image has already disappeared from the net – finding a copy via Pinterest is still better than finding nothing. (Interestingly Bing's search can serve a similar purpose – compared with Google, it feels like Bing is much more reluctant to remove 404'd images from its index again. While those broken results are annoying, too – and unlike Pinterest neither Google nor Bing store (at least publicly) full-resolution copies of those images – at least you can try plugging the preview image into reverse image search and with some luck maybe find an alternative copy of that image that has survived elsewhere.) And finally, the keywords added by Pinterest are possibly also helpful in making images more discoverable. (This might be no longer that relevant now that Google is also running image recognition on the images it indexes and no longer has to solely rely on the hope that any text near that image or the rare "alt"/"title"-text is actually relevant to the image contents, but it might still help a little.)
    - danuker 4y ago
      I also do. And Yandex, and sometimes Baidu. And when I'm particularly desperate, https://haveibeentrained.com/ https://haveibeentrained.com/ Google is resting on its laurels - the perfect recipe for losing hegemony.
    - weberer 4y ago
      If you use DuckDuckGo, you've been successfully tricked into using Bing.
      - fuckHNtho 4y ago
        I, too, have been reading HN for more than 3 hours.
      - JohnFen 4y ago
        Certainly not tricked. They tell you. They also aggregate from many search engines, so it's not just Bing.
    - ajsnigrutin 4y ago
      Bing is also great for searching porn, including an embeeded video player :) (you might have to change your region to usa first)
      - groffee 4y ago
        Letting Bill Gates know I'm into midget porn doesn't seem like a great idea.
    - soundnote 4y ago
      Just about anyone not using Google (Startpage) or Brave uses Bing, since it's the source of just about all indie engines' results. And even Brave's image results come from Bing for now.
  - 14 4y ago
    I have enjoyed bing as well but I guess I find myself naturally gravitating to yandex. They are both good imo.
adolph 4y ago
There is something to be said for a search engine whose interests don't align with, or even better are adversarial to, the prevailing spam sources.
- ra120271 4y ago
  I used to love that about Google News in the early days. A search would give you results from all over the world, with different outlooks and perspectives. I found it enlightening to read against my own selection bias. Then they removed that value point and aligned what they presented with my existing bias - at which point I stopped using it.
  - soundnote 4y ago
    I like Brave's Goggles idea on that front, and for other stuff as well, like curating knowledge domain-specific site boosting lists.
nounaut 4y ago
It looks like it's owned by a Russian company. Does that affect what it allows you to see? I notice for instance that a quick search for "War in Ukraine" returns top results from Russian news outlets calling it a "Military Operation".
- fuckHNtho 4y ago
  i mean yeah, yandex is the #1 russian tech company. literally the russian google.
- danuker 4y ago
  Of course it affects what you see. Search engines are a form of soft power that states can't afford NOT to influence. As a user of them, I make sure to use multiple engines (preferably with distinct indices and jurisdictions) when I research something essential that affects my long-term future. This is because I distrust how politics is done (industry lobbying).
  - narrator 4y ago
    Look at how Larry Page disappeared off to Fiji and just dropped out of the tech and business world. That to me says a lot about what's become of Google.
  - NCC1701DEngage 4y ago
    >As a user of them, I make sure to use multiple engines You may be interested in our alternative YouTube recommendations. Search a channel to find a list of other channels making similar videos. For example, our recommendations for How Money Works include other established econ focused channels like Economics Explained and Money & Macro but also smaller more obscure channels like Wall Street Millennial: https://channelgalaxy.com/id%3DUCkCGANrihzExmu9QiqZpPlQ/ https://channelgalaxy.com/id%3DUCkCGANrihzExmu9QiqZpPlQ/

14 4y ago

I’ve recently started using yandex lately and have say I also find it refreshing. My favourite is the image search I just find it superior to other search engines.

dijonman2 4y ago
Better than bing image search, my current go to?
- esotericsean 4y ago
  Someone uses Bing?
  - niels_bom 4y ago
    Bing image search does not suffer from Pinterest-itis as Google Images does.
    - iggldiggl 4y ago
      I absolutely understand the annoyance-factor of "Pinterest-itis" (though it seems that either they've dialled their "you must absolutely register now in order to see anything"-behaviour down a little bit again, or maybe it's just that half-forgotten userscript I installed at some point – either way it's currently not that infuriating for me), but given that e.g. direct image indexing seems almost non-existant for Instagram, being able to stumble across some images from there via the detour of Pinterest is better than nothing I suppose. (It's only infuriating if somebody saved an image to their computer/phone/… and then manually re-uploaded it to Pinterest again, so that the source URL of the image is then missing…) Likewise if the original image has already disappeared from the net – finding a copy via Pinterest is still better than finding nothing. (Interestingly Bing's search can serve a similar purpose – compared with Google, it feels like Bing is much more reluctant to remove 404'd images from its index again. While those broken results are annoying, too – and unlike Pinterest neither Google nor Bing store (at least publicly) full-resolution copies of those images – at least you can try plugging the preview image into reverse image search and with some luck maybe find an alternative copy of that image that has survived elsewhere.) And finally, the keywords added by Pinterest are possibly also helpful in making images more discoverable. (This might be no longer that relevant now that Google is also running image recognition on the images it indexes and no longer has to solely rely on the hope that any text near that image or the rare "alt"/"title"-text is actually relevant to the image contents, but it might still help a little.)
  - danuker 4y ago
    I also do. And Yandex, and sometimes Baidu. And when I'm particularly desperate, https://haveibeentrained.com/ https://haveibeentrained.com/ Google is resting on its laurels - the perfect recipe for losing hegemony.
  - weberer 4y ago
    If you use DuckDuckGo, you've been successfully tricked into using Bing.
    - fuckHNtho 4y ago
      I, too, have been reading HN for more than 3 hours.
    - JohnFen 4y ago
      Certainly not tricked. They tell you. They also aggregate from many search engines, so it's not just Bing.
  - ajsnigrutin 4y ago
    Bing is also great for searching porn, including an embeeded video player :) (you might have to change your region to usa first)
    - groffee 4y ago
      Letting Bill Gates know I'm into midget porn doesn't seem like a great idea.
  - soundnote 4y ago
    Just about anyone not using Google (Startpage) or Brave uses Bing, since it's the source of just about all indie engines' results. And even Brave's image results come from Bing for now.
- 14 4y ago
  I have enjoyed bing as well but I guess I find myself naturally gravitating to yandex. They are both good imo.

adolph 4y ago

There is something to be said for a search engine whose interests don't align with, or even better are adversarial to, the prevailing spam sources.

ra120271 4y ago
I used to love that about Google News in the early days. A search would give you results from all over the world, with different outlooks and perspectives. I found it enlightening to read against my own selection bias. Then they removed that value point and aligned what they presented with my existing bias - at which point I stopped using it.
- soundnote 4y ago
  I like Brave's Goggles idea on that front, and for other stuff as well, like curating knowledge domain-specific site boosting lists.

nounaut 4y ago

It looks like it's owned by a Russian company. Does that affect what it allows you to see? I notice for instance that a quick search for "War in Ukraine" returns top results from Russian news outlets calling it a "Military Operation".

fuckHNtho 4y ago
i mean yeah, yandex is the #1 russian tech company. literally the russian google.
danuker 4y ago
Of course it affects what you see. Search engines are a form of soft power that states can't afford NOT to influence. As a user of them, I make sure to use multiple engines (preferably with distinct indices and jurisdictions) when I research something essential that affects my long-term future. This is because I distrust how politics is done (industry lobbying).
- narrator 4y ago
  Look at how Larry Page disappeared off to Fiji and just dropped out of the tech and business world. That to me says a lot about what's become of Google.
- NCC1701DEngage 4y ago
  >As a user of them, I make sure to use multiple engines You may be interested in our alternative YouTube recommendations. Search a channel to find a list of other channels making similar videos. For example, our recommendations for How Money Works include other established econ focused channels like Economics Explained and Money & Macro but also smaller more obscure channels like Wall Street Millennial: https://channelgalaxy.com/id%3DUCkCGANrihzExmu9QiqZpPlQ/ https://channelgalaxy.com/id%3DUCkCGANrihzExmu9QiqZpPlQ/