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Road to hell being paved with good intentions maybe? Seems odd to me to order people to shelter in place when toxic smoke is an issue (another PG&E special?).
by salawat 4y ago
Road to hell being paved with good intentions maybe?
Seems odd to me to order people to shelter in place when toxic smoke is an issue (another PG&E special?).
The ZoneHaven software seems to be evac management software split into an offering for first responders for planning evacuations, and an offering for the public providing a single place to look things up.
From the screenshots, I'm seeing metrics on expected population and # of vehicles. I can only assume there is some dual use concern over the fact that as these datasets can be fused with carrier handset location data, it's possible to implement a geofencing solution with a bit of kitbashing.
The previous mention of "a town in a county near Monterey having their Mayor told California Highway Patrol would keep their town's Interstate access cut off on a timescale of months" (no evidence offered or capable of being found on a cursory search, will check CalFIRE as recommended though), but assuming good faith, could be a valid reason for concern.
If nothing else, it actually got me searching as to whether anything like that was at all precedented. It's one of those things that I guess you take for granted won't happen, but when you start thinking about it, gives you a shiver.
Relevance to article can be inferred the poster finds application of this potential tool in such a hypothetical geofencing manner with no recourse or questioning disquieting. Which I can't necessarily blame them for; my "but no one would do that"/State overreach mental circuits have been getting increasingly Locked Out/Tagged Out over the last decade. The poster just might be kind of bad at communicating context, or over-relying on other people sharing mental context/priors for the meaning to fully come through.
Incomplete communication maybe. Lunatic, I think not.
- trs8080 4y agoHate to be the one to break this to you, but that ship has long sailed. PATRIOT Act, NSA wiretaps, PRISM, Snowden, etc etc etc. For better or worse, if the US government wants to know where you are at any time, they'll just request cell tower records from your carrier and metadata from Facebook. They don't need to orchestrate some grand conspiracy to launder their actions through an evacuation management app.