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so, trams?

by codesnik 4y ago

so, trams?

space_fountain 4y ago
Well without schedules or defined routes
- sottol 4y ago
  Weird, schedules and defined routes plus some walking or biking used to work for many people. But that requires different attitudes.
  - space_fountain 4y ago
    I think that’s fair, but we do sort of have to live in the real world. Do you have a theory of how we convince people to go back to that? Personally I think with the future we can do better, but idk
    - ben_w 4y ago
      Here in Berlin I don't think people really stopped doing this. The tram line going past my apartment has vehicles every 5 minutes in the weekday daytime, so that probably helps.
  - Akronymus 4y ago
    You can do without schedules if they are frequent enough (as in, people don't have to check the schedule) This is one thing that seems to be severly lacking in the US, afaict. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPcHs-E4qc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPcHs-E4qc
  - rcxdude 4y ago
    It also requires a certain amount of traffic on those defined routes.
tdeck 4y ago
I think they're describing something more like a PRT system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transit
- space_fountain 4y ago
  Oh yes and maybe that was even in my head because I had heard about it before. It does seem like an area we could do much better. I was imaging something even more hybrid though. More like an elevator, especially the fancy ones where you select your floor before getting on, where it groups multiple people if they're taking similar trips. A lot of it seems like the sort of pure software problem that we should be able to solve easier now. You scan in on your phone or with a touchscreen at the station and then an algorithm works out which vehicles to dispatch to get everyone where they need to go which could involve lots of ride vehicles stopping together at station in the downtown, but then splitting off in the outskirts to drop smaller loads of people off Obviously that gets a bit pie in the sky so maybe facing a reality of something simpler and more traditional public transit like is ok, but one can dream

so, trams?

space_fountain 4y ago

Well without schedules or defined routes

sottol 4y ago
Weird, schedules and defined routes plus some walking or biking used to work for many people. But that requires different attitudes.
- space_fountain 4y ago
  I think that’s fair, but we do sort of have to live in the real world. Do you have a theory of how we convince people to go back to that? Personally I think with the future we can do better, but idk
  - ben_w 4y ago
    Here in Berlin I don't think people really stopped doing this. The tram line going past my apartment has vehicles every 5 minutes in the weekday daytime, so that probably helps.
- Akronymus 4y ago
  You can do without schedules if they are frequent enough (as in, people don't have to check the schedule) This is one thing that seems to be severly lacking in the US, afaict. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPcHs-E4qc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muPcHs-E4qc
- rcxdude 4y ago
  It also requires a certain amount of traffic on those defined routes.

tdeck 4y ago

I think they're describing something more like a PRT system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transit

space_fountain 4y ago
Oh yes and maybe that was even in my head because I had heard about it before. It does seem like an area we could do much better. I was imaging something even more hybrid though. More like an elevator, especially the fancy ones where you select your floor before getting on, where it groups multiple people if they're taking similar trips. A lot of it seems like the sort of pure software problem that we should be able to solve easier now. You scan in on your phone or with a touchscreen at the station and then an algorithm works out which vehicles to dispatch to get everyone where they need to go which could involve lots of ride vehicles stopping together at station in the downtown, but then splitting off in the outskirts to drop smaller loads of people off Obviously that gets a bit pie in the sky so maybe facing a reality of something simpler and more traditional public transit like is ok, but one can dream