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Likewise, I've seen some reports that 'the rest of us' like Unity -- and some that despise it. It's just a New Thing -- and like most New Things, it's probably

Likewise, I've seen some reports that 'the rest of us' like Unity -- and some that despise it. It's just a New Thing -- and like most New Things, it's probably a) not that polished, and b) people resist change.

drivebyacct2 15y ago
And for some reason, people manage to resist change so much, that a change in the default DE requires them sprinting to a new distro, with lashing words in tail for Ubuntu. Because changing distros is easier than install xfce, or gnome-shell, or kde, or something. Never mind that choice of distro often also includes things such as community, packages available in repos, packages available for smaller one-off projects, etc.
- teach 15y ago
  Have you personally tried changing to xfce, gnome-shell or KDE in Ubuntu 11.10? I have, and it's decidedly non-trivial. Switching to a different distro would probably be easier.
  - stevenspasbo 15y ago
    I got gnome-shell up and working with no issues, but after a while I decided to just switch to Linux Mint, which I'm very happy with. Edit: I should say that is just on my MacBook Pro. I haven't switched on my development box yet because I'm in the middle of some projects and don't feel like having to reconfigure everything right now. By the way, has anyone tried the Ubuntu to Linux Mint upgrade?
  - drivebyacct2 15y ago
    I remember `sudo apt-get install gnome-shell` and then choosing it at the next login and being quite smitten. (I later upgraded to ricotz's ppa for faster updates).
    - teach 15y ago
      Again, is this in 11.10? Or 11.04?
      - onryo 15y ago
        I did this in 11.10, then switched back to unity because gnome-shell had some bugs that kept me from getting work done. I like it's interface design better, though.
        drivebyacct2 15y ago
        Not sure what issues you had, but 3.2 is getting some bugfixes and ricotz's ppa has some good fixes as well.
      - drivebyacct2 15y ago
        Seeing as gnome-shell isn't available in 11.04... (don't use the PPA in 11.04, it will wreck your system).
- pnathan 15y ago
  Actually, in terms of headaches available, switching distros is easier than whacking Unity with the appropriate configs to get the shell I want. edit: I still don't have a screensaver. :(
  - drivebyacct2 15y ago
    I guess I still don't understand. Does anyone have anything concrete they can point to? `sudo apt-get install gnome-shell` gives a new shell, entirely separate from Unity with almost zero config overlap. A few seconds of drop down boxes gets you from Ambiance to Adwaita if you prefer the stock Gnome3 look and feel. Otherwise, it's basically stock GNOME3.
- regularfry 15y ago
  Non-default configurations are never as polished.

drivebyacct2 15y ago

And for some reason, people manage to resist change so much, that a change in the default DE requires them sprinting to a new distro, with lashing words in tail for Ubuntu. Because changing distros is easier than install xfce, or gnome-shell, or kde, or something. Never mind that choice of distro often also includes things such as community, packages available in repos, packages available for smaller one-off projects, etc.

teach 15y ago
Have you personally tried changing to xfce, gnome-shell or KDE in Ubuntu 11.10? I have, and it's decidedly non-trivial. Switching to a different distro would probably be easier.
- stevenspasbo 15y ago
  I got gnome-shell up and working with no issues, but after a while I decided to just switch to Linux Mint, which I'm very happy with. Edit: I should say that is just on my MacBook Pro. I haven't switched on my development box yet because I'm in the middle of some projects and don't feel like having to reconfigure everything right now. By the way, has anyone tried the Ubuntu to Linux Mint upgrade?
- drivebyacct2 15y ago
  I remember `sudo apt-get install gnome-shell` and then choosing it at the next login and being quite smitten. (I later upgraded to ricotz's ppa for faster updates).
  - teach 15y ago
    Again, is this in 11.10? Or 11.04?
    - onryo 15y ago
      I did this in 11.10, then switched back to unity because gnome-shell had some bugs that kept me from getting work done. I like it's interface design better, though.
      - drivebyacct2 15y ago
        Not sure what issues you had, but 3.2 is getting some bugfixes and ricotz's ppa has some good fixes as well.
    - drivebyacct2 15y ago
      Seeing as gnome-shell isn't available in 11.04... (don't use the PPA in 11.04, it will wreck your system).
pnathan 15y ago
Actually, in terms of headaches available, switching distros is easier than whacking Unity with the appropriate configs to get the shell I want. edit: I still don't have a screensaver. :(
- drivebyacct2 15y ago
  I guess I still don't understand. Does anyone have anything concrete they can point to? `sudo apt-get install gnome-shell` gives a new shell, entirely separate from Unity with almost zero config overlap. A few seconds of drop down boxes gets you from Ambiance to Adwaita if you prefer the stock Gnome3 look and feel. Otherwise, it's basically stock GNOME3.
regularfry 15y ago
Non-default configurations are never as polished.