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This is the only major issue holding me back from upgrading. When you run 3-5 visual studios, couple of RDP connections, etc, having those windows in the taskba

by sorwin 4y ago

This is the only major issue holding me back from upgrading. When you run 3-5 visual studios, couple of RDP connections, etc, having those windows in the taskbar is a big productivity booster. I had to rollback simply because after a while, it felt slow and hard to manage multiple windows... Who knew people like to run the same app more than once :|

belltaco 4y ago
I use StartAllBack for this, well for the $5 and has a free trial.
wilsonnb3 4y ago
> having those windows in the taskbar is a big productivity booster I sympathize with people that feel like this makes a big difference in productivity but you would have to be swapping between windows an absurd amount of times in a day for this to make an actual difference in productivity. It takes (rough estimate) about an extra 200ms to hover the task bar icon and select the window you want. So you lose a minute of time for every 300 times you do it. Doesn't add up to much unless you are switching windows hundreds or thousands of times a day. Not to mention the fact that selecting icons from your taskbar isn't even the most efficient way of switching windows, which would be win+number or alt+tab.
- tom_ 4y ago
  Have you had somebody time you doing this?
- dvfjsdhgfv 4y ago
  Do you by any chance happen to be a Gnome developer?
  - wilsonnb3 4y ago
    Nope, not even a gnome enjoyer. More of an XFCE or KDE person.
- johnklos 4y ago
  Using the mouse at all is a distraction. Moving the mouse pointer, then waiting for something to happen, is bad design. Glad you don't need it, but perhaps don't tell others they don't.
  - wilsonnb3 4y ago
    > perhaps don't tell others they don't. Why not? I am not contesting that people like the feature, just contesting that it makes you measurably more productive. I like how I can move the text cursor around on my iPhone by holding the spacebar down but if they removed that feature I am not going to be measurably less productive.
  - FreakLegion 4y ago
    Grouped taskbar items only affect mouse users in the first place. Alt+Tab windows aren't grouped. Or at least, not on any version of Windows I've ever used, which admittedly doesn't include 11.
- cygx 4y ago
  Not to mention the fact that selecting icons from your taskbar isn't even the most efficient way of switching windows, which would be win+number or alt+tab. Not sure that's true in the setup under discussion: win+# requires figuring out which number to press - and if the count is wrong, I mind even end up on an entirely different desktop via some apps I keep pinned on the taskbar. And at the very least subjectively, alt-tab feels rather jarring and requires some mental re-adjustment before I find the proper window to click.
  - nikau 4y ago
    I actually printed out a sheet with the numbers for each icon position and stuck it on the monitor. For pinned stuff you eventually remember the number for each app and switch quickly.

by sorwin 4y ago

belltaco 4y ago

I use StartAllBack for this, well for the $5 and has a free trial.

wilsonnb3 4y ago

> having those windows in the taskbar is a big productivity booster I sympathize with people that feel like this makes a big difference in productivity but you would have to be swapping between windows an absurd amount of times in a day for this to make an actual difference in productivity. It takes (rough estimate) about an extra 200ms to hover the task bar icon and select the window you want. So you lose a minute of time for every 300 times you do it. Doesn't add up to much unless you are switching windows hundreds or thousands of times a day. Not to mention the fact that selecting icons from your taskbar isn't even the most efficient way of switching windows, which would be win+number or alt+tab.

tom_ 4y ago
Have you had somebody time you doing this?
dvfjsdhgfv 4y ago
Do you by any chance happen to be a Gnome developer?
- wilsonnb3 4y ago
  Nope, not even a gnome enjoyer. More of an XFCE or KDE person.
johnklos 4y ago
Using the mouse at all is a distraction. Moving the mouse pointer, then waiting for something to happen, is bad design. Glad you don't need it, but perhaps don't tell others they don't.
- wilsonnb3 4y ago
  > perhaps don't tell others they don't. Why not? I am not contesting that people like the feature, just contesting that it makes you measurably more productive. I like how I can move the text cursor around on my iPhone by holding the spacebar down but if they removed that feature I am not going to be measurably less productive.
- FreakLegion 4y ago
  Grouped taskbar items only affect mouse users in the first place. Alt+Tab windows aren't grouped. Or at least, not on any version of Windows I've ever used, which admittedly doesn't include 11.
cygx 4y ago
Not to mention the fact that selecting icons from your taskbar isn't even the most efficient way of switching windows, which would be win+number or alt+tab. Not sure that's true in the setup under discussion: win+# requires figuring out which number to press - and if the count is wrong, I mind even end up on an entirely different desktop via some apps I keep pinned on the taskbar. And at the very least subjectively, alt-tab feels rather jarring and requires some mental re-adjustment before I find the proper window to click.
- nikau 4y ago
  I actually printed out a sheet with the numbers for each icon position and stuck it on the monitor. For pinned stuff you eventually remember the number for each app and switch quickly.