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> We already have the majority of one party believing the last election as stolen despite a comprehensive lack of evidence. This is the part that gets me. I do
by babypuncher 4y ago
> We already have the majority of one party believing the last election as stolen despite a comprehensive lack of evidence.
This is the part that gets me. I don't know how anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see this behavior and then still support the people perpetrating it.
- desindol 4y agoIt’s easy everyone you interact with thinks the same and your perception gets skewed to believe your bubble represents the whole population.
- rektide 4y agoAnd the voted out president does everything in their power to delegitimize the process.
- toomim 4y agoWhen you don't understand them, that's how you know you're in a bubble. Try getting out and talking to them.
- zcw100 4y ago"So what has you so upset?"....."Comet Ping-pong pedo ring, contrails, Q, where we go one we go all, derrrrr" Nope, coming in loud and clear, not a bubble problem.
- onionisafruit 4y agoIs that a conversation you had or a summary of what you’ve read about your political opponents on the internet?
- 93po 4y agoI think we all know the answer to this
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- themitigating 4y agook, let's be real- "Hi, what's the issue?" -Me "I believe the 2020 election was stolen, I read it on X internet source plus foxnews has been reporting on it, and everyone I know says it" - Person "Well how do you know they aren't lying?" - Me "How do you know they aren't, I also trust my friends and family, read this random news article from suspicious site" - Person "Do you think we should punish people who spread false information" -Me "No, freedom of speech, also I still believe the 2020 election was stolen. If Democrats are just going to steal elections that means my vote doesn't count and I'm not really in a democracy, this justifies civil war" - Person
- jackmott42 4y ago
- themitigating 4y agoI saw a woman say that Biden created SpaceX to capture the votes as they traveled through the satellites. They were then changed to Biden. Now that I've heard this what greater understanding do I have? But what you really mean is listen to their grievances and anger at being left behind economically. I'm aware of this but it doesn't justify destroying democracy with false accusations of election fraud.
- hn2017 4y agoConsidering high-level members of the Republican party and their supporters are following the cult QAnon, I think they're beyond convincing. https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/why-is-trump-openly-embracing-qanon-now https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/why-is-trump-o...
- jimt1234 4y agoI've tried talking to election deniers; all I hear for supporting evidence is disproven conspiracy theories and what-about-ism.
- douglasroth3 4y ago[dead]
- NotACop182 4y agoPlease show me these videos of ballot harvesting. If you point to 1000 mules let’s be clear it’s legal to drop of family members ballots, name the mules, and gps data is easily debunked by knowing voting locations are found in high trafficked areas public transports, Ubers, mail services, Ect can account for people being at multiple locations over time. It’s not rocket science.
- yucky 4y ago>If you point to 1000 mules let’s be clear it’s legal to drop of family members ballots I think the issue was there isn't a good explanation for making multiple trips to different ballot drop-offs all over the state with different batches of ballots, and then taking pics as proof that they were delivered. Doesn't seem like what you would do when dropping off grannies ballot. Doesn't mean an election was stolen though, Trump was unpopular enough to lose to Biden without help. But we probably shouldn't call people election deniers who point out the shenanigans that are on video and think we need to tighten up our procedures.
- themitigating 4y ago"good explanation" is subjective and regardless this isn't proof. What you are showing is something YOU think is suspicious and offering it as evidence.
- yucky 4y ago
- asdff 4y agoBecause they think the other side is already doing it, and having their side do it is just playing the game.
- diob 4y agoOne side of the country has become convinced that democracy is not important. In fact, they see it as an impedance to their goals.
- evronm 4y ago> In fact, they see it as an impedance to their goals. Well, are they wrong?
- ncmncm 4y agoGood point. But if democracy were not important, would they put so much work into undermining it?
- moistly 4y agoShort answer: Yes. Long answer: In order to obtain power? Hell yes! I should note, lest anyone think I’m taking sides, that it is not overly difficult to follow US news closely enough to know that there are cheaters and creeps of all sorts trying to subvert elections and the law. It’s a rainbow of representation. All sorts of jerks are breaking and bending all sorts of laws and norms. All y’all need an apolitical electoral commission, like Australia or Canada (and probably others) have. Heck, invite them over to run the next federal election.
- ncmncm 4y agoThat would seem to make democracy pretty important, then.
- themitigating 4y agoYou think both sides are equally at fault? how is that possible considering the number of people and actions on both political sides?
- ncmncm 4y agoPeople on both sides are at fault. That does not imply "equally".