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Available today: The Windows 11 2022 Update
- MikusR 4y agoBest feature seems to be that Windows will do updates and other energy intensive tasks only when the electricity is most expensive
- singhrac 4y agoYou mean least expensive? Generally speaking the availability of renewable energy (sun and/or wind) coincides with cheaper electricity prices.
- whyoh 4y agoStill can't choose to "never combine" taskbar buttons, like in previous Windows versions. That's a major usability flaw.
- svnpenn 4y agoIve used "When taskbar is full" for years. "never combine" seems to be an anti-pattern, as you'd be forced to scroll your taskbar with too many windows. First, would you really want that? and second, why do you have so many windows open, that this is becoming a problem? if you hide search, I think you can get about 8 non-collapsed windows. do you really need more than that?
- antisthenes 4y agoAh yes, the typical "you must be using this new awful feature wrong" response. Why don't you give the OP some respect and don't assume they don't know what they want?
- neals 4y agoyes, many more
- gsich 4y agoNo scrolling
- bslqn 4y agoI don’t want to have to click twice to bring up a window from the taskbar, ever. It’s not that hard to understand.
- wilsonnb3 4y agoTo be pedantic, it doesn't require two clicks. You can hover and then click on the one you want.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 4y agoI hover over a group to get the previews of the windows in that group, then click the one I want. Just one click in the whole process, though I do understand if you see the half second or so wait after hovering as bad as having to click.
- thesuperbigfrog 4y ago>> I hover over a group to get the previews of the windows in that group, then click the one I want. I prefer "Never combine" so that I don't have to spend any time hovering and waiting.
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- causi 4y agoI still wonder why "auto-expand taskbar when taskbar is full" isn't an option. Like isn't that the logical setup? If only one window or program is open, don't even have a taskbar. If twelve windows are open, have a taskbar tall enough for two rows of windows.
- seritools 4y agoYup, it is sadly still unusable without https://startallback.com/ https://startallback.com/ :(
- westcort 4y agoGot it! This is great for my productivity. So unfortunate that Microsoft didn’t even offer users an option…
- sorwin 4y agoThis is the only major issue holding me back from upgrading. When you run 3-5 visual studios, couple of RDP connections, etc, having those windows in the taskbar is a big productivity booster. I had to rollback simply because after a while, it felt slow and hard to manage multiple windows... Who knew people like to run the same app more than once :|
- belltaco 4y agoI use StartAllBack for this, well for the $5 and has a free trial.
- wilsonnb3 4y ago> having those windows in the taskbar is a big productivity booster I sympathize with people that feel like this makes a big difference in productivity but you would have to be swapping between windows an absurd amount of times in a day for this to make an actual difference in productivity. It takes (rough estimate) about an extra 200ms to hover the task bar icon and select the window you want. So you lose a minute of time for every 300 times you do it. Doesn't add up to much unless you are switching windows hundreds or thousands of times a day. Not to mention the fact that selecting icons from your taskbar isn't even the most efficient way of switching windows, which would be win+number or alt+tab.
- tom_ 4y agoHave you had somebody time you doing this?
- dvfjsdhgfv 4y agoDo you by any chance happen to be a Gnome developer?
- wilsonnb3 4y agoNope, not even a gnome enjoyer. More of an XFCE or KDE person.
- johnklos 4y ago
- Night_Thastus 4y agoI'm not sure if this is the same thing, but there's a "feature" where if you hover over an open application on the taskbar, it will not only show its own open windows, but also a weird "combined" view of that application and whatever else happens to be nearby. So you might have both Notepad and Outlook open. Hover over Notepad, and you don't just see a preview of the open Notepad window, you also see this stupid "Notepad + Outlook" window. It's completely useless and so frustrating. Sadly it's impossible to get rid of.
- UberFly 4y agoI also always use StartAllBack to fix a lot, but the fact that Microsoft is this stubborn and can't get why this is a usability problem for many actually pisses me off. How hard can it be to reinstate this officially? </tantrum>
- akira2501 4y agoThey love hiding things and then calling "productivity." The system tray is one that has always historically annoyed me.. randomly hiding users icons inside of a menu that you have to know exists before you go to use it. Talking people through that on the phone was always a nightmare. And now.. "taskbar overflow!" Even more hidden context to trip my users up and generate support calls. Thanks!
- miles 4y agoThe lengthy blog post does not appear to include a download link; here's one to the new ISO image: Download Windows 11 (Current release: Windows 11 2022 Update l Version 22H2) https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11 https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11 which has a SHA256 sum of 5C69E6F486BC4BDAE91557DE161008458EAA40D40468C34DBBD9078952108D0A for the English edition (included for posterity, as Microsoft apparently no longer maintains a public database of Windows shasums for previous versions as it used to on TechNet[0]; a license to access Microsoft's VLSC[1] is now required). [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_TechNet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_TechNet [1] https://www.microsoft.com/Licensing/servicecenter/default.aspx https://www.microsoft.com/Licensing/servicecenter/default.as...
- saghm 4y agoI'm honestly baffled by Microsoft's inconsistent way of both supporting and hindering people from installing Windows rather than just having to buy a machine with it pre-installed and then just update from that forever. They really seem to have some sort of internal disagreement over this; I can google to find a Windows ISO that they provide, but they won't give me the checksum (because I guess they want me to have to risk downloading a malicious version instead?). Then to install it, I might have to jump through some hoops in boot settings like Secure Boot and the like due to their pressure on the manufacturers, and I might not even be able to (like when I tried to buy an ARM laptop a few years ago only to find out that it essentially did not support booting of a flash drive at all), but once I get it installed, I can use it indefinitely without a license, and the only thing they disable is customizing my desktop background and window theme? Of course there's a permanent watermark in the corner to remind me (and anyone else who I share my screen with) that my Windows is unlicensed, but they'll make it dull enough that if I have anything other than a solid dark color behind it (i.e. not a game), it's basically invisible. It almost seems like they couldn't come to any agreement about how to transition from CD-based installs now that most laptops don't have CD drives, so their various teams just kind of do their own thing with no consistent policy coming from those in charge.
- vel0city 4y ago
- neals 4y agoFunny anecdote: apparently, WSL doesn't work until you upgrade to the latest, when you are on the Windows insider build thing. Hilariously found that out when a server got into trouble while I was in the back of the car. Big smiles all around as I was downloading and installing the update over 4G and no power plugged in. Good times.
- guhidalg 4y agoSometime similar once happened to me, the moral is to not install the insiders version unless you have a legitimate reason to. Getting access to preview features before they’re ready on will get you in that kind of trouble.
- neals 4y agoMore smiles and feelings! Thanks for contributing to the solution of this mornings problem :)
- nikau 4y agoEven better is/was the wording around insider installation, it said you can go back to normal windows, but left out the small detail that you have to reinstall normal windows from scratch vs rolling back.
- modeless 4y agoCan you dock the taskbar to the side yet?
- nemacol 4y agoonly with a regedit. afaik
- somehnacct3757 4y agoI'm a single issue Windows user over this. Can't believe they removed this in Win 11 and more importantly haven't put it back yet. This change alone has caused me to reconsider a future on Windows. Who are they building this thing for? OS X already has a better developer story and SteamOS is nearing its inflection point for gaming. What is Windows good at? Having momentum?
- modeless 4y ago
- ok123456 4y ago"How to get the Windows 11 2022 Update – there’s never been a better time to buy a new PC" Translation: This is a pig.
- systemvoltage 4y agoI quit using Windows 7 and moved to Linux a few years ago. Joined a new job and got a Windows 11 laptop. I cannot describe in words what I’m going through. It is absolutely appalling and at this point Windows 11 isn’t an operating system anymore. It’s malware.
- febstar 4y agoHighlights for me: - tabs in File Explorer - faster and more accurate search Still not sure why tabs in File Explorer took so long... but happy that its finally here.
- wilsonnb3 4y agoFor the record the tabs in file explorer aren't currently available, the page just says they are coming in October
- _trampeltier 4y ago.. and maybe in 2050 the favorites / Quick access is allways visible.
- Night_Thastus 4y agoI gave up on Windows search ages ago. Now I use "Everything". It's instantaneous and finds, well, everything. Including hidden files or stuff in weird/obscure locations on the drive. AFAIK it only does filenames though, nothing about searching in file contents as well. For me that's been good enough however.
- brewdad 4y agoUnder the Advanced Search options there is a way to search file contents but it comes with a warning that contents are not indexed, so you'll want to narrow the search through filenames first. It has worked for me when I knew the snippet I was looking for but couldn't remember which of about 50 files might contain it.
- ohm 4y agoFor searching file contents use Agent Ransack https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/ https://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/
- hulitu 4y agoAnd still showing virtual folders (focuments, videos, pictures etc) before drives in my computer ?
- neogodless 4y agohttps://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/265474/microsoft-has-no-plans-to-let-you-move-the-windows-11-taskbar https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-11/265474/microsoft... There are the things that are not in this update. Important ones.
- bitwize 4y agoIt's official. Microsoft has nothing but chucklefucks working on their flagship operating system -- all the talented guys are now working for the cloud division because that's where Microsoft makes its money. Remember these are the same people who said it takes a Ph.D. to write a terminal emulator that doesn't run like ass, only to be shown otherwise by -- I believe it was Casey Muratori.
- prometheus76 4y agoAnd he coded the solution in a weekend, no less. And terminals are not even his specialty! He just couldn't understand why the Microsoft team was taking such a top-heavy, convoluted approach.
- prometheus76 4y agoReplying to my own comment to add the proof that instead of double-digit fps terminal text rendering, he was able to achieve 4-digit fps terminal text rendering after a weekend of coding: Part 1 (Proof of concept): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxM8QmyZXtg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxM8QmyZXtg Part 2 (more features added): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99dKzubvpKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99dKzubvpKE
- newaccount2021 4y ago
- AndrewVos 4y agoAzure is absolutely ridiculous though? You think the people working there are talented?
- Havoc 4y agoThe tabs in explorer seems good. Hopefully they’re keyboard shortcut friendly I don’t see anything about addressing the UI paradigm/look chaos though? That would help with usability. Since 10 I can’t find anything in settings anymore and googling it is becoming less effective too with each change
- Spooky23 4y agoMore like Windows 8 R4. I feel like Windows 10 started to suck less, and now we get to do it again.
- oblak 4y agoI found the 8 family much better than 10. The only major UI difference to 7 was what, a stupid start menu. But it had old the good upgrades that made their way to 10. Oh well, what do I know
- Markoff 4y agoIndeed pretty much only issue with 8.1 was start menu easily solvable with Classic shell. If I have to reinstall OS in future, I am most likely going for W7 or W8.1 from my current W10.
- iLoveOncall 4y agoI just want Android apps to work outside of the US :| How can a feature like that be region locked? Ridiculous.
- jonas-w 4y agoSince it came out there were several ways to use it outside of the US. Not official. But this is what i did since the launch of WSA. If you really want to use it there are many easy ways to do so.
- encryptluks2 4y agoProbably because like most of the other features they mention they are doing extensive data collection.
- munk-a 4y ago... And the taskbar is still anchored to the bottom of the screen. As a multi-monitor user who has tried Windows 11 this restriction hurts immensely. Please let us dock the taskbar to the side of the screen.
- thesuperbigfrog 4y ago>> Please let us dock the taskbar to the side of the screen. Or the top of the screen.
- lostmsu 4y agoYeah, of the secondary screen.
- fomine3 4y agoTerrible degrading still remains.
- dustedcodes 4y agoSo in Windows 11 they removed a lot of useful features which users really miss, and meanwhile replaced it with a lot of advertisements littered around the OS and dark patterns which make it increasingly impossible to use anything but Internet Explorer Edge and Bing as a Windows user. Is Windows 11 generally understood to be the Vista like follower to Windows 10 or does anyone actually like it? (Although I remember people also saying they liked Vista and then years later the same people were making jokes about Vista when it’s image was beyond repair)
- johnklos 4y agoI'm looking forward to reading about all the data collection this update now does, and about how many previously set preferences to avoid data collection this update will happily ignore and reset. While I do run Windows in a VM now and then for stuff like EPROM programming, I am so glad I don't have to use it with any regularity. I think it'd drive me bonkers.
- ThePinion 4y agoIt still baffles me there aren't folder capabilities in the new start menu. It was supposedly coming in an update but I'm not seeing any mention of that here.
- neogodless 4y agoI thought it was added. Supposedly you can drag shortcut icons together and folders will form. Don't have it to test.
- ledgerdev 4y agoI greatly miss the virtual desktop switching animation. Any word on virtual desktop switching slide animation being part of this update?
- encryptluks2 4y agoA few things to note, the speech recognition, camera effects, natural speech, captions, etc all appear to use some cloud service so there is definitely an anti-privacy angle here. I also can't begin how to explain how much the Windows Store sucks. It has to be the worst app store in existence.
- cm2187 4y agoWindows 11 has brought great improvements to Windows 10. Now that Microsoft is breaking things by introducing useless features in Windows 11 rather than 10, Windows 10 is a lot more stable.
- shade 4y agoI've been testing 22H2 via Insiders Beta channel for a couple of months now; the Live Captions feature is great and has been almost life-changing for me. Really glad it's rolling out to wider availability now.
- encryptluks2 4y agoHow do you feel about having all your audio sent to Microsoft?
- shade 4y agoIf the audio was actually sent to MS, I'd feel no worse than I would about Google getting it for live transcribe; the privacy implications annoy me but I'd rather have the captions. That said, Win11 live captions work on-device and are not server-bound, and I've confirmed this by playing audio files and having captions still work while entirely off the internet. For that matter, while I'm not an Android user - Google has moved most of their captions processing on-device and that is the same approach Apple is taking with theirs.