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There are potential answers to this, like lasers on ships for point defense and on UAV's for area defense. We don't really know what secret projects are running

by Iolaum 4y ago

There are potential answers to this, like lasers on ships for point defense and on UAV's for area defense. We don't really know what secret projects are running. Still sending a carrier in an area where such weapons operate looks like a tricky proposition.

jqpabc123 4y ago
Hypersonic missiles are real --- tested and verified. The answers only have unproven "potential". The Navy chooses "potential" over "reality". Otherwise, they would be working more on producing a defense instead of more targets. Simply put, there is no single operational missile defense system that is capable of intercepting a hypersonic missile. https://www.defenceiq.com/defence-technology/articles/hypersonic-missiles-what-are-they-and-can-they-be-stopped https://www.defenceiq.com/defence-technology/articles/hypers...
- hindsightbias 4y ago
  > tested and verified. No, they are not. Your own link says “allegedly” or “near” wrt to. Chinese and Russian. Zero verification. Breathless claims are just that. We’ll see probbly see fusion before a self-sustaining hypersonic weapon. Ballistic missiles posing as hyper uberweapons aren’t new. They’re 60 year old tech. The Navy has deployed SM-3, SM-6 and other ABM weapons more than a decade back for that threat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3
  - jqpabc123 4y ago
    No, they are not. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff disagrees with your assessment. The top U.S. military officer, General Mark Milley, has provided the first official U.S. confirmation of a Chinese hypersonic weapons test ... "What we saw was a very significant event of a test of a hypersonic weapon system. And it is very concerning," Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Bloomberg television, in an interview aired on Wednesday [Oct 2021]. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/top-us-general-confirms-very-concerning-chinese-hypersonic-weapons-test-2021-10-27/ https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/top-us-ge... You and the Navy can choose to ignore it but all the facts show that carriers are now obsolete weapons of war when deployed against our biggest enemies.
eimrine 4y ago
> UAV's for area defense Are drones any efficient against rockets?
- jqpabc123 4y ago
  Against hypersonic missiles, the only thing we currently have is "potential". I can tell you from the physics involved, nothing short of a Star Wars type weapon will work --- either a laser or a particle beam. And even with such a weapon, it will have to be extremely high power and capable of delivering a knock out blow almost instantaneously at long range. Hypersonic missiles are moving at about 5 miles per second and the flight path is constantly being altered so maintaining an accurate target lock for more than a second will be very challenging. The closer the missile gets, the harder the tracking becomes. And it gets closer very quickly. If such a system existed (which it doesn't), it and an adequate power supply probably won't fit on a drone. Frankly, I think an effective solution is decades away. Don't let your kid join the Navy and end up a sitting duck aboard a shiny big target (aka a carrier).

by Iolaum 4y ago

jqpabc123 4y ago

Hypersonic missiles are real --- tested and verified. The answers only have unproven "potential". The Navy chooses "potential" over "reality". Otherwise, they would be working more on producing a defense instead of more targets. Simply put, there is no single operational missile defense system that is capable of intercepting a hypersonic missile. https://www.defenceiq.com/defence-technology/articles/hypersonic-missiles-what-are-they-and-can-they-be-stopped https://www.defenceiq.com/defence-technology/articles/hypers...

hindsightbias 4y ago
> tested and verified. No, they are not. Your own link says “allegedly” or “near” wrt to. Chinese and Russian. Zero verification. Breathless claims are just that. We’ll see probbly see fusion before a self-sustaining hypersonic weapon. Ballistic missiles posing as hyper uberweapons aren’t new. They’re 60 year old tech. The Navy has deployed SM-3, SM-6 and other ABM weapons more than a decade back for that threat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RIM-161_Standard_Missile_3
- jqpabc123 4y ago
  No, they are not. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff disagrees with your assessment. The top U.S. military officer, General Mark Milley, has provided the first official U.S. confirmation of a Chinese hypersonic weapons test ... "What we saw was a very significant event of a test of a hypersonic weapon system. And it is very concerning," Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told Bloomberg television, in an interview aired on Wednesday [Oct 2021]. https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/top-us-general-confirms-very-concerning-chinese-hypersonic-weapons-test-2021-10-27/ https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/top-us-ge... You and the Navy can choose to ignore it but all the facts show that carriers are now obsolete weapons of war when deployed against our biggest enemies.

eimrine 4y ago

> UAV's for area defense Are drones any efficient against rockets?

jqpabc123 4y ago
Against hypersonic missiles, the only thing we currently have is "potential". I can tell you from the physics involved, nothing short of a Star Wars type weapon will work --- either a laser or a particle beam. And even with such a weapon, it will have to be extremely high power and capable of delivering a knock out blow almost instantaneously at long range. Hypersonic missiles are moving at about 5 miles per second and the flight path is constantly being altered so maintaining an accurate target lock for more than a second will be very challenging. The closer the missile gets, the harder the tracking becomes. And it gets closer very quickly. If such a system existed (which it doesn't), it and an adequate power supply probably won't fit on a drone. Frankly, I think an effective solution is decades away. Don't let your kid join the Navy and end up a sitting duck aboard a shiny big target (aka a carrier).